Re: Orphaned rbd_data Objects

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Hi Felix, 

This is weird. The most likely explanation is that this resulted from a bug that has certainly been fixed. 

What you try could as a starter is a ceph-bluestore-tool fsck [1] over the primary OSD of rbd_data.26f7c5d05af621.0000000000002adf to see if it lists any inconsistencies: 

$ cephadm shell --name osd.$i --fsid $(ceph fsid) ceph-bluestore-tool fsck --path /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$i/ --deep yes 

If it doesn't then I suppose you'll have to get rid of these objects you can't 'rados rm' with the help of ceph-objectstore-tool <remove> [2]. 

Regards, 
Frédéric. 

[1] https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/man/8/ceph-bluestore-tool/ 
[2] https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/man/8/ceph-objectstore-tool/#removing-an-object 

----- Le 31 Jan 25, à 8:29, Felix Stolte <f.stolte@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit : 

> Hi Frederic,
> thanks for you suggestions. I took a look at all the objects and discovered the
> following:

> 1. rbd_id.<image_name>, rbd_header.<image_id> and rbd_object_map.<image_id>
> exist only for the 3 images listed by ‚rbd ls‘ (i created a test image
> yesterday).

> 2. There are about 30 different image_ids with rbd_data.<image_id> Objects which
> do not have an id, header oder object_map object

> After that i tried to get the stats of one of the orphaned objects:

> rados -p mailbox stat rbd_data.26f7c5d05af621.0000000000002adf
> error stat-ing mailbox/rbd_data.26f7c5d05af621.0000000000002adf: (2) No such
> file or directory
> I double checked, that object name is the one listed by 'rados ls‘. What makes
> it worse is that i neither can stat, get or rm the objects while they still are
> counted for disk usage. We will remove the whole pool for sure, but i really
> like to get to the cause of this to prevent it from happening again.

>> Am 30.01.2025 um 10:54 schrieb Frédéric Nass <frederic.nass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

>> Hi Felix,

>> Every rbd_data object belongs to an image that should have :

>> - an rbd_id.<image_name> object containing the image id (that you can get with
>> rbd info)
>> - an rbd_header object with omap atrributes you can list with listomapvals

>> To identify the image name these rbd_data object belong(ed) to you could list
>> all rbd_id objects in that pool and, for each one of them, print the image id
>> and the image name with the below command:

>> $ for rbd_id in $(rados -p $poolname ls | grep rbd_id) ; do echo "$(echo $rbd_id
>> | cut -d '.' -f2) : $(rados -p $poolname get $rbd_id - | strings)" ; done
>> image2 : 2a733b30debc84
>> image1 : 28d4fc1dddd922

>> It might take some time but you'd get a clearer view of what these rbd_data
>> objects refer(ed) to. Also, if you can decode the timestamps in 'rados -p rbd
>> listomapvals rbd_header.<id> | strings' output, you could know when each image
>> was created and accessed for the last time.

>> Hope that helps.

>> Regards,
>> Frédéric.

>> PS: If you're moving away from iSCSI and only have 2 remaining images in this
>> pool, you may also wait until these images are no longer in use and then detach
>> them and remove the whole pool.

>> ----- Le 30 Jan 25, à 9:09, Felix Stolte <f.stolte@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

>>> Hi Frederic,
>>> there is no namespace. The pool in question has the application rbd, but is not
>>> the default pool named ‚rbd'

>>>> Am 29.01.2025 um 11:24 schrieb Frédéric Nass <frederic.nass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

>>>> Hi Felix,

>>>> Any RADOS namespaces in that pool? You can check using either:

>>>> rbd namespace ls rbd

>>>> or

>>>> rados stat -p rbd rbd_namespace && rados -p rbd listomapvals rbd_namespace

>>>> The rbd_data objects might be linked to namespaced images that can only be
>>>> listed using the command: rbd ls --namespace <namespace>
>>>> I suggest checking this because the 'rbd' pool has historically been Ceph's
>>>> default RBD pool, long before iSCSI began using it (in its hardcoded
>>>> implementation).

>>>> Might be worth checking this before taking any actions.

>>>> Regards,
>>>> Frédéric.

>>>> ----- Le 29 Jan 25, à 8:53, Felix Stolte f.stolte@xxxxxxxxxxxxx a écrit :

>>>>> Hi Alexander,

>>>>> trash is empty and rbd ls only lists two images with the prefix
>>>>> rbd_data.1af561611d24cf and rbd_data.ed93e6548ca56b

>>>>> rados ls gives:

>>>>> rbd_data.d1b81247165450.00000000000055d2
>>>>> rbd_data.32de606b8b4567.0000000000012f2f
>>>>> rbd_data.ed93e6548ca56b.00000000000eef03
>>>>> rbd_data.26f7c5d05af621.0000000000002adf
>>>>> ….

>>>>> Am 28.01.2025 um 22:46 schrieb Alexander Patrakov <patrakov@xxxxxxxxx>:

>>>>> Hi Felix,

>>>>> A dumb answer first: if you know the image names, have you tried "rbd
>>>>> rm $pool/$imagename"? Or, is there any reason like concerns about
>>>>> iSCSI control data integrity that prevents you from trying that?

>>>>> Also, have you checked the rbd trash?

>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 5:43 PM Stolte, Felix <f.stolte@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>>>>> Hi guys,

>>>>> we have a rbd pool we used for images exported via ceph-iscsi on a 17.2.7
>>>>> cluster. The pool uses 10 times the diskspace i would suppose it should and
>>>>> after investigating we noticed a lot of rbd_data Objects which images are no
>>>>> longer present. I assume that the original images were deleted using the gwcli
>>>>> but not all Objects have been removed properly.

>>>>> What would be the best/most secure way to get rid of these orphaned objects and
>>>>> reclaim the diskspace?

>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Felix

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>>>>> mit freundlichem Gruß
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>>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDir Stefan Müller
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> mit freundlichem Gruß
> Felix Stolte

> IT-Services

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