Thanks for your reply Eugen. I’m fairly new to cephadm so I wasn’t aware that we could manage the drives without rebuilding them. However, we thought we’d take advantage of this opportunity to also encrypt the drives, and that does require a rebuild. I have a theory on why the orchestrator is confused. I want to create an osd service for each osd node so I can manage drives on a per-node basis. I started by creating a spec for the first node: service_type: osd service_id: ceph-osd31 placement: hosts: - ceph-osd31 spec: data_devices: rotational: 0 size: '3TB:' encrypted: true filter_logic: AND objectstore: bluestore But I also see a default spec, “osd”, which has placement set to “unmanaged”. `ceph orch ls osd —export` shows the following: service_type: osd service_name: osd unmanaged: true spec: filter_logic: AND objectstore: bluestore --- service_type: osd service_id: ceph-osd31 service_name: osd.ceph-osd31 placement: hosts: - ceph-osd31 spec: data_devices: rotational: 0 size: '3TB:' encrypted: true filter_logic: AND objectstore: bluestore `ceph orch ls osd` shows that I was able to convert 4 drives using my spec: NAME PORTS RUNNING REFRESHED AGE PLACEMENT osd 95 10m ago - <unmanaged> osd.ceph-osd31 4 10m ago 43m ceph-osd31 Despite being able to convert 4 drives, I’m wondering if these specs are conflicting with one another, and that has confused the orchestrator. If so, how do I safely get from where I am now to where I want to be? :-) Cheers, /rjg On Sep 26, 2024, at 3:31 PM, Eugen Block <eblock@xxxxxx> wrote: EXTERNAL EMAIL | USE CAUTION Hi, this seems a bit unnecessary to rebuild OSDs just to get them managed. If you apply a spec file that targets your hosts/OSDs, they will appear as managed. So when you would need to replace a drive, you could already utilize the orchestrator to remove and zap the drive. That works just fine. How to get out of your current situation is not entirely clear to me yet. I’ll reread your post tomorrow. Regards, Eugen Zitat von Bob Gibson <rjg@xxxxxxxxxx>: Hi, We recently converted a legacy cluster running Quincy v17.2.7 to cephadm. The conversion went smoothly and left all osds unmanaged by the orchestrator as expected. We’re now in the process of converting the osds to be managed by the orchestrator. We successfully converted a few of them, but then the orchestrator somehow got confused. `ceph health detail` reports a “stray daemon” for the osd we’re trying to convert, and the orchestrator is unable to refresh its device list so it doesn’t see any available devices.