On 11/8/23 14:41, Stefan Kooman wrote:
On 08-11-2023 01:33, Xiubo Li wrote:
On 9/18/23 20:42, Stefan Kooman wrote:
On 13-09-2023 16:49, Stefan Kooman wrote:
On 13-09-2023 14:58, Ilya Dryomov wrote:
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 9:20 AM Stefan Kooman <stefan@xxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
Since the 6.5 kernel addressed the issue with regards to
regression in
the readahead handling code... we went ahead and installed this
kernel
for a couple of mail / web clusters (Ubuntu 6.5.1-060501-generic
#202309020842 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Sep 2 08:48:34 UTC 2023
x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux). Since then we occasionally see the
following
being logged by the kernel:
[Sun Sep 10 07:19:00 2023] workqueue: delayed_work [ceph] hogged
CPU for
>10000us 4 times, consider switching to WQ_UNBOUND
[Sun Sep 10 08:41:24 2023] workqueue: ceph_con_workfn [libceph]
hogged
CPU for >10000us 4 times, consider switching to WQ_UNBOUND
[Sun Sep 10 11:05:55 2023] workqueue: delayed_work [ceph] hogged
CPU for
>10000us 8 times, consider switching to WQ_UNBOUND
[Sun Sep 10 12:54:38 2023] workqueue: ceph_con_workfn [libceph]
hogged
CPU for >10000us 8 times, consider switching to WQ_UNBOUND
[Sun Sep 10 19:06:37 2023] workqueue: ceph_con_workfn [libceph]
hogged
CPU for >10000us 16 times, consider switching to WQ_UNBOUND
[Mon Sep 11 10:53:33 2023] workqueue: ceph_con_workfn [libceph]
hogged
CPU for >10000us 32 times, consider switching to WQ_UNBOUND
[Tue Sep 12 10:14:03 2023] workqueue: ceph_con_workfn [libceph]
hogged
CPU for >10000us 64 times, consider switching to WQ_UNBOUND
[Tue Sep 12 11:14:33 2023] workqueue: ceph_cap_reclaim_work [ceph]
hogged CPU for >10000us 4 times, consider switching to WQ_UNBOUND
We wonder if this is a new phenomenon, or that it's rather logged
in the
new kernel and it was not before.
Hi Stefan,
This is something that wasn't logged in older kernels. The kernel
workqueue infrastructure is considering Ceph work items CPU intensive
and reports that in dmesg. This is new in 6.5 kernel, the threshold
can be tweaked with workqueue.cpu_intensive_thresh_us parameter.
Thanks. I was just looking into it (WQ_UNBOUND), alloc_workqueue(),
etc. The patch by Tejun Heo on workqueue also mentions this:
* Concurrency-managed per-cpu work items that hog CPUs and delay the
execution of other work items are now automatically detected
and excluded from concurrency management. Reporting on such work
items can also be enabled through a config option.
This does imply that the Ceph work items are "excluded from
concurrency management", is that correct? And if so, what does that
mean in practice? Might this make the process of returning /
claiming caps to the MDS slower?
In 6.6-rc1 more workqueue work is done and more fine tuning seems
possible. If there are any recommendations from a cephfs kernel
client perspective on what a good policy would be, we would love to
hear about that.
For now we will just disable the detection
(cpu_intensive_thresh_us=0) and see how it goes.
Well, the positive thing to mention is that we don't see this
happening anymore. However, in the same time window as last week, an
event happened. This time it was the MDS that got OOM killed. At the
time it was killed it was consuming 249.9 GiB (03:51:33). Just
before that it consumed ~ 200 GiB. It acquired ~ 50 GiB of ram in 35
seconds (according to metrics). What MDS / client behaviour can
trigger such an amount of increased memory usage?
There are several cases, for example when the pools are near full it
could pile the journal logs in MDCache or due to the issues in
https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/44180.
Did you see any warning from ceph status or any suspect logs from the
MDS ?
We did for sure not hit a near full condition. We did observe a large
amount of bandwidth associated with this kclient. The MDS is sending ~
650 Mb/s of traffic to this one client alone (so more than 80% of all
MDS traffic goes to one client).
However, no ceph warnings or MDS logging prior to this event. The
event starts, MDS continues to work ... until it's killed ~ half a
minute later.
MDS log settings:
"debug_mds": "0/0",
"debug_mds_balancer": "1/5",
"debug_mds_locker": "1/5",
"debug_mds_log": "1/5",
"debug_mds_log_expire": "1/5",
"debug_mds_migrator": "1/5",
Note that we do not see any anomaly regarding CephFS (meta)data read /
write traffic. So no excessive writes to a CephFS metadata pool for
example.
Note, that after we downgraded the kclients again (5.12.19) we did not
observe this behavior. So we might be able to reproduce, but we rather
don't want to ;-).
Okay, BTW how man active MDSs you are running ?
Thanks
- Xiubo
Gr. Stefan
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