Hi, It appears you have quite a low PG count on your cluster (approx. 20 PGs per each OSD). Usually is recommended to have about 100-150 per each OSD. With a lower PG count you can have issues with balancing data and cause errors such as large OMAP objects. Might not be the fix in this case but either way would still recommend increasing PGs on your pools. If you look at the OMAP value in your ceph osd df you can see that some OSDs have 2GB while some have 500MB. Even for data some drives are holding 900GB while others 2TB. You will have to issue a deep-scrub on the PGs as well to get updated OMAP data once the PGs are increased. Regards, Bailey >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Johnson <markj@xxxxxxxxx> >Sent: July 31, 2023 9:01 PM >To: eblock@xxxxxx; ceph-users@xxxxxxx >Subject: Re: 1 Large omap object found > >Sure thing. Thanks for the reply. > >ceph df > >--- RAW STORAGE --- >CLASS SIZE AVAIL USED RAW USED %RAW USED >hdd 291 TiB 244 TiB 47 TiB 47 TiB 16.02 >TOTAL 291 TiB 244 TiB 47 TiB 47 TiB 16.02 > >--- POOLS --- >POOL ID PGS STORED OBJECTS USED %USED >MAX AVAIL >.mgr 1 1 459 MiB 116 1.3 GiB 0 >65 TiB >.rgw.root 2 32 1.3 KiB 4 48 KiB 0 >65 TiB >default.rgw.log 3 32 5.3 KiB 209 468 KiB 0 >65 TiB >default.rgw.control 4 32 0 B 8 0 B 0 >65 TiB >default.rgw.meta 5 32 452 MiB 828.75k 10 GiB 0 >65 TiB >default.rgw.buckets.index 6 32 17 GiB 4.56M 51 GiB 0.03 >65 TiB >default.rgw.buckets.data 7 128 15 TiB 54.51M 46 TiB 19.24 >65 TiB >cephfs_metadata 8 16 258 MiB 98 775 MiB 0 >65 TiB >cephfs_data 9 32 1.9 GiB 998 5.6 GiB 0 >65 TiB > > >ceph osd df > >ID CLASS WEIGHT REWEIGHT SIZE RAW USE DATA OMAP META >AVAIL %USE VAR PGS STATUS >0 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.6 TiB 1.6 TiB 550 MiB 12 >GiB 5.7 TiB 21.70 1.35 21 up > 1 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 995 GiB 986 GiB 1.1 GiB 7.6 >GiB 6.3 TiB 13.35 0.83 28 up > 2 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 996 GiB 986 GiB 2.1 GiB 7.9 >GiB 6.3 TiB 13.37 0.83 22 up > 3 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 513 MiB 10 >GiB 5.9 TiB 18.35 1.15 28 up > 4 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.1 TiB 1.1 TiB 527 MiB 8.3 >GiB 6.2 TiB 15.02 0.94 22 up > 5 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.8 TiB 1.8 TiB 1.5 GiB 14 >GiB 5.5 TiB 25.01 1.56 28 up > 6 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 746 GiB 739 GiB 1.0 GiB 5.8 >GiB 6.5 TiB 10.01 0.63 20 up > 7 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.1 TiB 1.1 TiB 1.1 GiB 8.8 >GiB 6.2 TiB 15.04 0.94 20 up > 8 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 871 GiB 864 GiB 544 MiB 6.7 >GiB 6.4 TiB 11.69 0.73 27 up > 9 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 3.3 GiB 11 >GiB 5.9 TiB 18.37 1.15 28 up >30 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.8 TiB 1.8 TiB 1.6 GiB 14 >GiB 5.5 TiB 25.01 1.56 35 up >31 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 747 GiB 739 GiB 2.2 GiB 6.2 >GiB 6.5 TiB 10.03 0.63 20 up >32 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 996 GiB 987 GiB 1.5 GiB 7.9 >GiB 6.3 TiB 13.37 0.83 26 up >33 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 995 GiB 985 GiB 1.5 GiB 7.7 >GiB 6.3 TiB 13.35 0.83 25 up >34 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 750 GiB 742 GiB 2.1 GiB 5.7 >GiB 6.5 TiB 10.07 0.63 25 up >35 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 2.1 TiB 2.0 TiB 571 MiB 15 >GiB 5.2 TiB 28.36 1.77 34 up >36 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 1.5 GiB 10 >GiB 5.9 TiB 18.37 1.15 31 up >37 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.1 TiB 1.1 TiB 524 MiB 8.2 >GiB 6.2 TiB 14.99 0.94 26 up >38 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.6 TiB 1.6 TiB 1.6 GiB 12 >GiB 5.7 TiB 21.70 1.35 28 up >39 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.5 TiB 1.4 TiB 2.4 GiB 11 >GiB 5.8 TiB 20.04 1.25 30 up >10 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 1.6 GiB 10 >GiB 5.9 TiB 18.34 1.14 26 up >12 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 1 KiB 9.9 >GiB 5.9 TiB 18.37 1.15 25 up >14 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.5 TiB 1.4 TiB 593 MiB 10 >GiB 5.8 TiB 19.98 1.25 22 up >16 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 997 GiB 987 GiB 2.2 GiB 7.5 >GiB 6.3 TiB 13.38 0.84 19 up >18 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.1 TiB 1.1 TiB 1.1 GiB 8.7 >GiB 6.2 TiB 15.02 0.94 26 up >20 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.6 TiB 1.6 TiB 1.1 GiB 12 >GiB 5.7 TiB 21.68 1.35 26 up >22 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 559 MiB 10 >GiB 5.9 TiB 18.34 1.14 22 up >24 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 872 GiB 864 GiB 1020 MiB 6.8 >GiB 6.4 TiB 11.70 0.73 23 up >26 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 749 GiB 741 GiB 1.8 GiB 6.3 >GiB 6.5 TiB 10.05 0.63 25 up >28 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 1.5 GiB 10 >GiB 5.9 TiB 18.36 1.15 32 up >11 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.1 TiB 1.1 TiB 2.6 GiB 8.5 >GiB 6.2 TiB 15.02 0.94 23 up >13 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 2.2 GiB 10 >GiB 5.9 TiB 18.38 1.15 36 up >15 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 995 GiB 986 GiB 1.1 GiB 7.7 >GiB 6.3 TiB 13.35 0.83 25 up >17 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 623 GiB 618 GiB 419 KiB 5.0 >GiB 6.7 TiB 8.35 0.52 23 up >19 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 870 GiB 863 GiB 513 MiB 6.6 >GiB 6.4 TiB 11.67 0.73 21 up >21 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.1 TiB 1.1 TiB 1.5 GiB 8.6 >GiB 6.2 TiB 15.02 0.94 25 up >23 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 746 GiB 739 GiB 564 MiB 5.8 >GiB 6.5 TiB 10.01 0.62 22 up >25 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.1 TiB 1.1 TiB 2.1 GiB 8.4 >GiB 6.2 TiB 15.03 0.94 24 up >27 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.2 TiB 1.2 TiB 532 MiB 9.1 >GiB 6.1 TiB 16.68 1.04 23 up >29 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 1.1 TiB 1.1 TiB 1.1 GiB 8.4 >GiB 6.2 TiB 14.99 0.94 19 up > TOTAL 291 TiB 47 TiB 46 TiB 51 GiB 359 >GiB 244 TiB 16.02 >MIN/MAX VAR: 0.52/1.77 STDDEV: 4.56 > > >On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 09:22 +0000, Eugen Block wrote: > Hi, > > can you share some more details like 'ceph df' and 'ceph osd df'? I > don't have too much advice yet, but to see all entries in your meta > pool you need add the --all flag because those objects are stored in > namespaces: > > rados -p default.rgw.meta ls --all > > That pool contains user and bucket information (example): > > # rados -p default.rgw.meta ls --all > users.uid admin.buckets > users.keys c0fba3ea7d9c4321b5205752c85baa85 users.uid admin > users.keys JBWPRAPP1AQG471AMGC4 users.uid > e434b82737cf4138b899c0785b49112d.buckets > users.uid e434b82737cf4138b899c0785b49112d > > > > Zitat von Mark Johnson <markj@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > I've been going round and round in circles trying to work this one > > out but I'm getting nowhere. We're running a 4 node quincy cluster > > (17.2.6) which recently reported the following: > > > > ceph.log-20230729.gz:2023-07-28T08:31:42.390003+0000 osd.26 > > (osd.26) > > 13834 : cluster [WRN] Large omap object found. Object: > > 5:6c65dd84:users.uid::callrecordings$callrecordings_rw.buckets:head > > > > PG: 5.21bba636 (5.16) Key count: 378454 Size (bytes): 75565579 > > > > This happened a week or so ago (only the key count was only just > > over the 200000 threshold on that occasion) and after much searching > > around, I found an article that suggested a deep scrub on the pg > > would likely resolve the issue, so I forced a deep scrub and shortly > > after, the warning cleared. Came into the office today to discover > > the above. It's on the same PG as before which is in the > > default.rgw.meta pool. This time, after forcing a deep-scrub on > > that PG, nothing changed. I did it a second time just to be sure > > but got the same result. > > > > I keep finding a suse article that simply suggests increasing the > > threshold to the previous default of 2,000,000, but other articles I > > read say it was lowered for a reason and that by the time it hits > > that figure, it's too late so I don't want to just mask it. > > Problem > > is that I don't really understand it. I found a thread here from a > > bit over two years ago but their issue was in the > > default.rgw.buckets.index pool. A step in the solution was to list > > out the problematic object id and check the objects per shard > > however, if I issue the command "rados -p default.rgw.meta ls" it > > returns nothing. I get a big list from "rados -p > > default.rgw.buckets.index ls" just nothing from the first pool. I > > think it may be because the meta pool isn't indexed based on > > something I read, but I really don't know what I'm talking about > > tbh. > > > > I don't know if this is helpful, but if I list out all the PGs for > > that pool, there are 32 PGs and 5.16 shows 80186950 bytes and > > 401505 > > keys. PG 5.c has 75298 and 384 keys. The remaining 30 PGs show > > zero bytes and zero keys. I'm really not sure how to troubleshoot > > and resolve from here. For the record, dynamic resharding is > > enabled in that no options have been set in the config and that is > > the default setting. > > > > Based on the suse article I mentioned which also references the > > default.rgw.meta pool, I'm gathering our issue is because we have so > > many buckets that are all owned by the one user and the solution is > > either: > > > > * delete unused buckets > > * create multiple users and spread buckets evenly across all users > > (not something we can do) > > * increase the threshold to stop the warning > > > > Problem is that I'm having trouble verifying this is the issue. I've > > tried dumping out bucket stats to a file (radosgw-admin bucket stats > > > bucket_stats.txt) but after three hours this is still running with > > no output. > > > > Thanks for your time, > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > > ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an > > email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx > > > _______________________________________________ > ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an > email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx