Quincy full osd(s)

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With current 17.2.1 (cephadm) I am seeing an unusual HEALTH_ERR
Adding files to a new empty cluster, replica 3 (crush is by host), OSDs
became 95% full and reweighting them to any value does not cause backfill
to start.

If I reweight the three too full OSDs to 0.0 I get a large number of
misplaced objects but no subsequent data movement, cluster remains at
HEALTH_WARN "Low space hindering backfill". Cluster has 1200 OSDs (all
except three are close to empty).

Balancer is on, autoscale is on for pool.

I feel I am overlooking something obvious, if anyone can suggest what it
would be appreciated. thanks.
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