Just as a friendly reminder: 1) No one prevents you from hiring developers to work on Ceph in a way you like. 2) I personally dislike the current release cycle and would like change that a bit. 3) There is a reason companies like our own prevent users from using latest as "production", we tag them as nightly and not roll them out to most environments until we or others found enough bugs or made sure that release is stable enough for production. This often came with us ignoring releases and still not setting pacific to default for new installations for a very long time. So still every new croit deployment by default (without changing it) is still on octopus instead of pacific and as you see on the changelog for a good reason. I would strongly suggest to not run something like a luminous or minic release anymore, it's old but it also lacks a lot of debugging functionality that makes it hard for support teams like ours to help users fixing a cluster. Having 5-10y LTS is therefore something I would not recommend and it's a requirement from the past in my personal opinion. However a timespan of 3-5y is something the Ceph community should try to do and we from croit would happily support that. -- Martin Verges Managing director Mobile: +49 174 9335695 | Chat: https://t.me/MartinVerges croit GmbH, Freseniusstr. 31h, 81247 Munich CEO: Martin Verges - VAT-ID: DE310638492 Com. register: Amtsgericht Munich HRB 231263 Web: https://croit.io | YouTube: https://goo.gl/PGE1Bx On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 16:00, Marc <Marc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > But since when do developers decide? Do you know any factory where > > factory workers decide what product they are going to make and not the > > product management??? > > > > You might want to check out [1] and [2]. There are different > > stakeholders with different interests. All these parties have the > > possibility to influence the project, on all different levels and areas. > > So it's not product management. > > > > IT is becoming such a refuge for undetected unprofessionals. > > > > So who do you target here? The ceph devs that try to make the product > > better every day? > > > > The target is, decision making based on "I do not want to need implement > something, I want to move to a new version of python where there is a > default library I can include" or "I need this functionality but there is > no package available for centos7 so lets drop centos7 and only support > centos8" or "but it works on my macos development environment" etc etc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx