Re: snaptrim blocks io on ceph pacific even on fast NVMEs

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Since the PGs will be splitted when you add new OSDs you don't need to merge them beforehand, your PG per OSD ratio will improve (if you have too many PGs/OSD at the moment). After they have been remapped and the rebalancing is done you can check how the PGs/OSD ratio is and then decide whether it makes sense to make further changes.


Zitat von Christoph Adomeit <Christoph.Adomeit@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

I have 15 Nvme 6.4 TB and 4200 Pgs. This has historical reasons since the same cluster once had 100 spinning drives and at that ancient times it was not possible to shrink the number of pgs in an existing cluster.

Do you think it is a good idea for snaptrim performance to reduce the number of PGs ? Also I want to add more Nvmes. Ist it better to first add the new NVMEs and then reduce PGs or is it better to first reduche the number of PGs and then add the NVMEs ?


On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 04:04:52PM -0800, Anthony D'Atri wrote:


> How many osd you have on 1 nvme drives?
> We increased 2/nvme to 4/nvme and it improved the snap-trimming quite a lot.

Interesting. Most analyses I’ve seen report diminishing returns with more than two OSDs per.

There are definitely serialization bottlenecks in the PG and OSD code, so I’m curious re the number and size of the NVMe devices you’re using, and especially their PG ratio. Not lowballing the PGs per OSD can have a similar effect with less impact to CPU and RAM. ymmv.

> I guess the utilisation of the nvmes when you snaptrim is not 100%.

Take the iostat %util field with a grain of salt, like the load average. Both are traditional metrics whose meanings have diffused as systems have evolved over the years.

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