Re: osd daemons still reading disks at full speed while there is no pool activity

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Hello Josh,
> 
> Was there PG movement (backfill) happening in this cluster recently?
> Do the OSDs have stray PGs (e.g. 'ceph daemon osd.NN perf dump | grep
> numpg_stray' - run this against an affected OSD from the housing
> node)?
yes, some nodes have stray pgs (1..5)  shell I do something about those?


> 
> I'm wondering if you're running into
> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/45765, where cleaning of PGs from OSDs
hmm, yes, this seems very familiar, problems started with using balancer,
forgot to mention that!

> leads to a high read rate from disk due to a combination of rocksdb
> behaviour and caching issues. Turning on bluefs_buffered_io (on by
> default in 14.2.22) is a mitigation for this problem, but has some
> side effects to watch out for (write IOPS amplification, for one).
> Fixes for that linked issue went into 14.2.17, 14.2.22, and then
> Pacific; we found the 14.2.17 changes to be quite effective by
> themselves.
> 
> Even if you don't have stray PGs, trying bluefs_buffered_io might be
> an interesting experiment. An alternative would be to compact rocksdb
> for each of your OSDs and see if that helps; compacting eliminates the
> tombstoned data that can cause problems during iteration, but if you
> have a workload that generates a lot of rocksdb tombstones (like PG
> cleaning does), then the problem will return a while after compaction.
> 

hmm, I'll try enabling bluefs_buffered_io (it was indeed false) and do the
compaction as well anyways..

I'll report back, thanks for the hints!

BR

nik


> Josh
> 

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