Re: ceph Nautilus lost two disk over night everything hangs

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I thought that recovery below min_size for EC pools wasn't expected to work
until Octopus. From the Octopus release notes: "Ceph will allow recovery
below min_size for Erasure coded pools, wherever possible."

Josh

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 6:53 AM Frank Schilder <frans@xxxxxx> wrote:

> Dear Rainer,
>
> hmm, maybe the option is ignored or not implemented properly. This option
> set to true should have the same effect as reducing min_size *except* that
> new writes will not go to non-redundant storage. When reducing min-size, a
> critically degraded PG will accept new writes, which is the danger of
> data-loss mentioned before and avoided if only recovery ops are allowed on
> such PGs.
>
> Can you open a tracker about your observation that reducing min-size was
> necessary and helped despite osd_allow_recovery_below_min_size=true?
>
> Best regards,
> =================
> Frank Schilder
> AIT Risø Campus
> Bygning 109, rum S14
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Rainer Krienke <krienke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 30 March 2021 13:30:00
> To: Frank Schilder; Eugen Block; ceph-users@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re:  Re: ceph Nautilus lost two disk over night
> everything hangs
>
> Hello Frank,
>
> the option is actually set. On one of my monitors:
>
> # ceph daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.*.asok config show|grep
> osd_allow_recovery_below_min_size
>      "osd_allow_recovery_below_min_size": "true",
>
> Thank you very much
> Rainer
>
> Am 30.03.21 um 13:20 schrieb Frank Schilder:
> > Hi, this is odd. The problem with recovery when sufficiently many but
> less than min_size shards are present should have been resolved with
> osd_allow_recovery_below_min_size=true. It is really dangerous to reduce
> min_size below k+1 and, in fact, should never be necessary for recovery.
> Can you check if this option is present and set to true? If it is not
> working as intended, a tracker ticker might be in order.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > =================
> > Frank Schilder
> > AIT Risø Campus
> > Bygning 109, rum S14
> >
>
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