Hi Frédéric, Thanks for the additional input. We are currently only running RGW on the cluster, so no snapshot removal, but there have been plenty of remappings with the OSDs failing (all of them at first during and after the OOM incident, then one-by-one). I haven't had a chance to look into or test the bluefs_buffered_io setting, but will do that next. Initial results from compacting all OSDs' RocksDBs look promising (thank you, Igor!). Things have been stable for the past two hours, including the two OSDs with issues (one in reboot loop, the other with some heartbeats missed), while 15 degraded PGs are backfilling. The ballooning of each OSD to over 15GB memory right after the initial crash was even with osd_memory_target set to 2GB. The only thing that helped at that point was to temporarily add enough swap space to fit 12 x 15GB and let them do their thing. Once they had all booted, memory usage went back down to normal levels. I will report back here with more details when the cluster is hopefully back to a healthy state. Thanks, Stefan On 12/14/20, 3:35 PM, "Frédéric Nass" <frederic.nass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Stefan, Initial data removal could also have resulted from a snapshot removal leading to OSDs OOMing and then pg remappings leading to more removals after OOMed OSDs rejoined the cluster and so on. As mentioned by Igor : "Additionally there are users' reports that recent default value's modification for bluefs_buffered_io setting has negative impact (or just worsen existing issue with massive removal) as well. So you might want to switch it back to true." We're some of them. Our cluster suffered from a severe performance drop during snapshot removal right after upgrading to Nautilus, due to bluefs_buffered_io being set to false by default, with slow requests observed around the cluster. Once back to true (can be done with ceph tell osd.* injectargs '--bluefs_buffered_io=true') snap trimming would be fast again so as before the upgrade, with no more slow requests. But of course we've seen the excessive memory swap usage described here : https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/34224 So we lower osd_memory_target from 8MB to 4MB and haven't observed any swap usage since then. You can also have a look here : https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/38044 What you need to look at to understand if your cluster would benefit from changing bluefs_buffered_io back to true is the %util of your RocksDBD devices on an iostat. Run an iostat -dmx 1 /dev/sdX (if you're using SSD RocksDB devices) and look at the %util of the device with bluefs_buffered_io=false and with bluefs_buffered_io=true. If with bluefs_buffered_io=false, the %util is over 75% most of the time, then you'd better change it to true. :-) Regards, Frédéric. _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx