Re: Nautilus - osdmap not trimming

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Hi

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, i restarted all of the mon servers, in sequence, and yesterday just leader alone without any success.

Reports:

root@monb01:~# ceph report | grep committed
report 4002437698
    "monmap_first_committed": 1,
    "monmap_last_committed": 6,
    "osdmap_first_committed": 67114,
    "osdmap_last_committed": 72592,
    "mdsmap_first_committed": 1,
    "mdsmap_last_committed": 1,
        "first_committed": 609225,
        "last_committed": 609251,
        "first_committed": 180754137,
        "last_committed": 180754777,
root@monb01:~#

root@monb01:~# ceph report | jq .osdmap_clean_epochs
report 395175214
{
  "min_last_epoch_clean": 72592,
  "last_epoch_clean": {
    "per_pool": [
      {
        "poolid": 0,
        "floor": 72592
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      {
        "poolid": 1,
        "floor": 72592
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      {
        "poolid": 2,
        "floor": 72592
      },
      {
        "poolid": 3,
        "floor": 72592
      },
      {
        "poolid": 4,
        "floor": 72592
      },
      {
        "poolid": 5,
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      {
        "poolid": 26,
        "floor": 72592
      },
      {
        "poolid": 27,
        "floor": 72592
      },
      {
        "poolid": 28,
        "floor": 72592
      }
    ]
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  "osd_epochs": [
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      "id": 0,
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root@monb01:~#


W dniu 2020-11-12 11:58, Dan van der Ster napisał(a):
I found another possible trimming bug this morning, but I don't expect
it applies to you because you said you restarted the mon leader:
https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/48212

Otherwise, couple you please share the output of

   ceph report | grep committed
   ceph report | jq .osdmap_clean_epochs

Thanks,

Dan

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 10:56 AM <m.sliwinski@xxxxx> wrote:

Hi

Thanks for the response. Our cluster is currently mostly on 14.2.13,
especially all MONs and MGRs are.
Some OSDs are still on 14.2.9, but it shouldn't block osdmap trimming i think, because atm we don't have any down OSDs, i checked for that when
we first noticed the issue.
I'm working of course on bringing all OSDs to 14.2.13, but it will take
some time as i have to create and test Debian packages for that.
Could there be any other reason? I found posts about PGs for new pool
not bein marked as created in MON db while cluster still reporting
everything as active+clean, but i dont know how to debug that.

--
Best regards
Marcin


W dniu 2020-11-11 16:50, Dan van der Ster napisał(a):
> Hi,
>
> v14.2.13 has an important fix in this area:
> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/47290
> Without this fix, your cluster will not trim if there are any *down*
> osds in the cluster.
>
> On our clusters we are running v14.2.11 patched with commit
> "mon/OSDMonitor: only take in osd into consideration when trimming
> osdmaps" -- this trims maps perfectly afaict.
>
> I can't vouch for the rest of 14.2.13, so better test that adequately
> before upgrading.
>
> Cheers, Dan
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 6:57 PM <m.sliwinski@xxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> We have ceph cluster running on Nautilus, recently upgraded from
>> Mimic.
>> When in Mimic we noticed issue with osdmap not trimming, which caused
>> part of our cluster to crash due to osdmap cache misses. We solved it
>> by
>> adding "osd_map_cache_size = 5000" to our ceph.conf
>> Because we had at that time mixed OSD versions from both Mimic and
>> Nautilus we decided to finish upgrade, but it didn't solve our
>> problem.
>> We have at the moment: "oldest_map": 67114, "newest_map": 72588,and
>> the
>> difference is not shrinking even thought cluster is in active+clean
>> state. Restarting all mon's didn't help. It seems bug is similar to
>> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/44184 but there's no solution there.
>> What else can i check or do?
>> I don't want do to cangerous things like mon_osd_force_trim_to or
>> something similar without finding the cause.
>>
>> I noticed in MON debug log:
>>
>> 2020-11-10 17:11:14.612 7f9592d5b700 10 mon.monb01@0(leader).osd
>> e72571
>> should_prune could only prune 4957 epochs (67114..72071), which is
>> less
>> than the required minimum (10000)
>> 2020-11-10 17:11:19.612 7f9592d5b700 10 mon.monb01@0(leader).osd
>> e72571
>> should_prune could only prune 4957 epochs (67114..72071), which is
>> less
>> than the required minimum (10000)
>>
>> So i added config options to reduce those values:
>>
>>    mon       dev      mon_debug_block_osdmap_trim       false
>>    mon       advanced mon_min_osdmap_epochs             100
>>    mon       advanced mon_osdmap_full_prune_min         500
>>    mon       advanced paxos_service_trim_min            10
>>
>> But it didn't help:
>>
>> 2020-11-10 18:28:26.165 7f1b700ab700 20 mon.monb01@0(leader).osd
>> e72588
>> load_osdmap_manifest osdmap manifest detected in store; reload.
>> 2020-11-10 18:28:26.169 7f1b700ab700 10 mon.monb01@0(leader).osd
>> e72588
>> load_osdmap_manifest store osdmap manifest pinned (67114 .. 72484)
>> 2020-11-10 18:28:26.169 7f1b700ab700 10 mon.monb01@0(leader).osd
>> e72588
>> should_prune not enough epochs to form an interval (last pinned:
>> 72484,
>> last to pin: 72488, interval: 10)
>>
>> Command "ceph report | jq '.osdmap_manifest' |jq '.pinned_maps[]'"
>> shows
>> 67114 on the top, but i'm unable to determine why.
>>
>> Same with 'ceph report | jq .osdmap_first_committed':
>>
>> root@monb01:/var/log/ceph# ceph report | jq .osdmap_first_committed
>> report 4073203295
>> 67114
>> root@monb01:/var/log/ceph#
>>
>> When i try to derermine if a certain PG or OSD is keeping it so low i
>> don't get anything.
>>
>> And in MON debug log i get:
>>
>> 2020-11-10 18:42:41.767 7f1b74721700 10 mon.monb01@0(leader) e6
>> refresh_from_paxos
>> 2020-11-10 18:42:41.767 7f1b74721700 10
>> mon.monb01@0(leader).paxosservice(mdsmap 1..1) refresh
>> 2020-11-10 18:42:41.767 7f1b74721700 10
>> mon.monb01@0(leader).paxosservice(osdmap 67114..72588) refresh
>> 2020-11-10 18:42:41.767 7f1b74721700 20 mon.monb01@0(leader).osd
>> e72588
>> load_osdmap_manifest osdmap manifest detected in store; reload.
>> 2020-11-10 18:42:41.767 7f1b74721700 10 mon.monb01@0(leader).osd
>> e72588
>> load_osdmap_manifest store osdmap manifest pinned (67114 .. 72484)
>>
>> I also get:
>>
>> root@monb01:/var/log/ceph#  ceph report |grep "min_last_epoch_clean"
>> report 2716976759
>>          "min_last_epoch_clean": 0,
>> root@monb01:/var/log/ceph#
>>
>>
>> Additional info:
>> root@monb01:/var/log/ceph# ceph versions
>> {
>>      "mon": {
>>          "ceph version 14.2.13
>> (1778d63e55dbff6cedb071ab7d367f8f52a8699f)
>> nautilus (stable)": 3
>>      },
>>      "mgr": {
>>          "ceph version 14.2.13
>> (1778d63e55dbff6cedb071ab7d367f8f52a8699f)
>> nautilus (stable)": 3
>>      },
>>      "osd": {
>>          "ceph version 14.2.13
>> (1778d63e55dbff6cedb071ab7d367f8f52a8699f)
>> nautilus (stable)": 120,
>>          "ceph version 14.2.9
>> (581f22da52345dba46ee232b73b990f06029a2a0)
>> nautilus (stable)": 164
>>      },
>>      "mds": {},
>>      "overall": {
>>          "ceph version 14.2.13
>> (1778d63e55dbff6cedb071ab7d367f8f52a8699f)
>> nautilus (stable)": 126,
>>          "ceph version 14.2.9
>> (581f22da52345dba46ee232b73b990f06029a2a0)
>> nautilus (stable)": 164
>>      }
>> }
>>
>>
>> root@monb01:/var/log/ceph# ceph mon feature ls
>>
>> all features
>>          supported: [kraken,luminous,mimic,osdmap-prune,nautilus]
>>          persistent: [kraken,luminous,mimic,osdmap-prune,nautilus]
>> on current monmap (epoch 6)
>>          persistent: [kraken,luminous,mimic,osdmap-prune,nautilus]
>>          required: [kraken,luminous,mimic,osdmap-prune,nautilus]
>>
>>
>> root@monb01:/var/log/ceph# ceph osd dump | grep require
>> require_min_compat_client luminous
>> require_osd_release nautilus
>>
>>
>> root@monb01:/var/log/ceph# ceph report | jq
>> '.osdmap_manifest.pinned_maps | length'
>> report 1777129876
>> 538
>>
>> root@monb01:/var/log/ceph# ceph pg dump -f json | jq .osd_epochs
>> dumped all
>> null
>>
>> --
>> Best regards
>> Marcin
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