Re: Hardware needs for MDS for HPC/OpenStack workloads?

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Hi Matthew,

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 2:35 PM Matthew Vernon <mv3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We're considering the merits of enabling CephFS for our main Ceph
> cluster (which provides object storage for OpenStack), and one of the
> obvious questions is what sort of hardware we would need for the MDSs
> (and how many!).

We've never mixed cephfs and rbd, for the simple reason that we
enforce QoS throttles on the openstack clients but cannot do that on
the cephfs clients.
This was decided years ago, and might be overly cautious these days.

> These would be for our users scientific workloads, so they would need to
> provide reasonably high performance. For reference, we have 3060 6TB
> OSDs across 51 OSD hosts, and 6 dedicated RGW nodes.
>
> The minimum specs are very modest (2-3GB RAM, a tiny amount of disk,
> similar networking to the OSD nodes), but I'm not sure how much going
> beyond that is likely to be useful in production.
>
> I've also seen it suggested that an SSD-only pool is sensible for the
> CephFS metadata pool; how big is that likely to get?

>From a smaller but active cephfs with size=3:

RAW STORAGE:
    CLASS     SIZE        AVAIL       USED        RAW USED     %RAW USED
    hdd       1.1 PiB     389 TiB     729 TiB      729 TiB         65.22
    TOTAL     1.1 PiB     389 TiB     729 TiB      729 TiB         65.22

POOLS:
    POOL                ID     STORED      OBJECTS     USED
%USED     MAX AVAIL
    cephfs_data          1     235 TiB     267.32M     235 TiB
42.69       105 TiB
    cephfs_metadata      2      66 GiB      19.06M      66 GiB
0.02       105 TiB

Cheers, Dan


>
> I'd be grateful for any pointers :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthew
>
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