Re: osds dropping out of the cluster w/ "OSD::osd_op_tp thread … had timed out"

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hi igor, hi paul -

thank you for your answers.

On 5/19/20 2:05 PM, Igor Fedotov wrote:
> I presume that your OSDs suffer from slow RocksDB access,
> collection_listing operation is a culprit in this case - 30 items
> listing takes 96seconds to complete.
> From my experience such issues tend to happen after massive DB data
> removals (e.g. pool removal(s)) often backed by RGW usage which is "DB
> access greedy".
> DB data fragmentation is presumably the root cause for the resulting
> slowdown. BlueFS spillover to main HDD device if any to be eliminated too.
> To temporary workaround the issue you might want to do manual RocksDB
> compaction - it's known to be helpful in such cases. But the positive
> effect doesn't last forever - DB might go into degraded state again.

so i'll try to compact the rockdbs and report back … we didn't see any
spillovers yet, but indeed created a few large test pools with many pgs
and removed these afterwards. also, the affected pools had a significant
number of osds added to them recently. apart from this, the pools are
mainly being used for cephfs, with some rather small rgw pools for
openstack on top.

On 5/19/20 2:13 PM, Paul Emmerich wrote:
> 3) if necessary add more OSDs; common problem is having very
> few dedicated OSDs for the index pool; running the index on
> all OSDs (and having a fast DB device for every disk) is
> better. But sounds like you already have that

nope, unfortunately not. default.rgw.buckets.index is an replicated pool
on hdds with only 4 pgs, i'll see if i can change that.

back to igors questions:

> Some questions about your cases:
> - What kind of payload do you have - RGW or something else?
mostly cephfs. the most active pools in terms of i/o are the openstack
rgw ones, though.

> - Have you done massive removals recently?
yes, see above

> - How large are main and DB disks for suffering OSDs? How much is their
> current utilization?
for osd.293, for which i've sent the log:
main: 2tb hdd (5% used), db: 14gb partition on a 180gb nvme (~400mb used)
… i'll attach a perf dump for this osd.

> - Do you see multiple "slow operation observed" patterns in OSD logs?
yes, although they do not necessarily correlate with osd down events.

> Are they all about _collection_list function?
no, there are also submit_transact and _txc_committed_kv, with about the
same frequency as collection_list.

thank you very much for your analysis & with kind regards,
thoralf.
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