Hello, Over the last week I have tried optimising the performance of our MDS nodes for the large amount of files and concurrent clients we have. It turns out that despite various stability fixes in recent releases, the default configuration still doesn't appear to be optimal for keeping the cache size under control and avoid intermittent I/O blocks. Unfortunately, it is very hard to tweak the configuration to something that works, because the tuning parameters needed are largely undocumented or only described in very technical terms in the source code making them quite unapproachable for administrators not familiar with all the CephFS internals. I would therefore like to ask if it were possible to document the "advanced" MDS settings more clearly as to what they do and in what direction they have to be tuned for more or less aggressive cap recall, for instance (sometimes it is not clear if a threshold is a min or a max threshold). I am am in the very (un)fortunate situation to have folders with a several 100K direct sub folders or files (and one extreme case with almost 7 million dentries), which is a pretty good benchmark for measuring cap growth while performing operations on them. For the time being, I came up with this configuration, which seems to work for me, but is still far from optimal: mds basic mds_cache_memory_limit 10737418240 mds advanced mds_cache_trim_threshold 131072 mds advanced mds_max_caps_per_client 500000 mds advanced mds_recall_max_caps 17408 mds advanced mds_recall_max_decay_rate 2.000000 The parameters I am least sure about---because I understand the least how they actually work---are mds_cache_trim_threshold and mds_recall_max_decay_rate. Despite reading the description in src/common/options.cc, I understand only half of what they're doing and I am also not quite sure in which direction to tune them for optimal results. Another point where I am struggling is the correct configuration of mds_recall_max_caps. The default of 5K doesn't work too well for me, but values above 20K also don't seem to be a good choice. While high values result in fewer blocked ops and better performance without destabilising the MDS, they also lead to slow but unbounded cache growth, which seems counter-intuitive. 17K was the maximum I could go. Higher values work for most use cases, but when listing very large folders with millions of dentries, the MDS cache size slowly starts to exceed the limit after a few hours, since the MDSs are failing to keep clients below mds_max_caps_per_client despite not showing any "failing to respond to cache pressure" warnings. With the configuration above, I do not have cache size issues any more, but it comes at the cost of performance and slow/blocked ops. A few hints as to how I could optimise my settings for better client performance would be much appreciated and so would be additional documentation for all the "advanced" MDS settings. Thanks a lot Janek _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx
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