Re: Consumer-grade SSD in Ceph

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Thanks for all the replies. In summary; consumer grade SSD is a no go.

What is an alternative to SM863a? Since it is quite hard to get these due non non-stock.

Thanks!
Sinan

> Op 23 dec. 2019 om 08:50 heeft Eneko Lacunza <elacunza@xxxxxxxxx> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Sinan,
> 
> Just to reiterate: don't do this. Consumer SSDs will destroy your enterprise SSD's performance.
> 
> Our office cluster is made of consumer-grade servers: cheap gaming motherboards, memory, ryzen processors, desktop HDDs. But SSD drives are Enterprise, we had awful experiences with consumer SSDs (some perform worse that HDDs with Ceph).
> 
> Cheers
> Eneko
> 
>> El 19/12/19 a las 20:20, Sinan Polat escribió:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Thanks for the replies. I am not worried about their lifetime. We will be adding only 1 SSD disk per physical server. All SSD’s are enterprise drives. If the added consumer grade disk will fail, no problem.
>> 
>> I am more curious regarding their I/O performance. I do want to have 50% drop in performance.
>> 
>> So anyone any experience with 860 EVO or Crucial MX500 in a Ceph setup?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>>> Op 19 dec. 2019 om 19:18 heeft Mark Nelson <mnelson@xxxxxxxxxx> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> The way I try to look at this is:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1) How much more do the enterprise grade drives cost?
>>> 
>>> 2) What are the benefits? (Faster performance, longer life, etc)
>>> 
>>> 3) How much does it cost to deal with downtime, diagnose issues, and replace malfunctioning hardware?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My personal take is that enterprise drives are usually worth it. There may be consumer grade drives that may be worth considering in very specific scenarios if they still have power loss protection and high write durability.  Even when I was in academia years ago with very limited budgets, we got burned with consumer grade SSDs to the point where we had to replace them all.  You have to be very careful and know exactly what you are buying.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 12/19/19 12:04 PM, jesper@xxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>> I dont think “usually” is good enough in a production setup.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thursday, 19 December 2019, 12.09 +0100 from Виталий Филиппов <vitalif@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> 
>>>>    Usually it doesn't, it only harms performance and probably SSD
>>>>    lifetime
>>>>    too
>>>> 
>>>>    > I would not be running ceph on ssds without powerloss protection. I
>>>>    > delivers a potential data loss scenario
>>>> 
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