Re: RESEND: Re: PG Balancer Upmap mode not working

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Offline optimization is using the same underlying code that the ceph-mgr does.  So it should for the most part produce the same results.

There is a special weight stored as "weight_set" in crush that is set by the crush-compat balancer.  Not sure of the commands but these should be removed before testing the upmap balancer.

David

On 12/20/19 1:17 AM, Thomas Schneider wrote:
Hello David,

many thanks for testing the new balancer code with my OSDmap.

I have completed task to set reweight of any OSD to 1.0 and then I
enable balancer.
However there's no change to the PG distribution on my critical pool.

Therefore I started offline optimization with osdmaptool following these
<https://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/upmap/> instructions.

I enable debug to see more details and this is the last output; there's
no optimization possible although the OSDs are heavily unbalanced.
2019-12-20 10:05:06.256 7f91a9c86ac0 10  osd.255 target 59.1325
deviation -0.132507 -> ratio -0.00224085 < max ratio 0.001
2019-12-20 10:05:06.256 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:06.256 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 400 -> 404 which remapped 11.22ef out from underfull osd.400
2019-12-20 10:05:06.256 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[400,404] remapped 11.22ef out from underfull osd.400, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:06.256 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158731
2019-12-20 10:05:06.256 7f91a9c86ac0 10  hit local_fallback_retries 100
2019-12-20 10:05:06.260 7f91a9c86ac0 10  overfull
42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,101,102,103,104,105,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137
,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,201,202,203,204,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236
,237,238,239,240,241,242,244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,256,257,258,259,260,261,263,264,265,266,267
underfull
[362,361,352,327,359,356,417,340,403,306,304,309,318,328,334,381,399,401,404,414,280,293,297,383,393,294,312,411,277,355,371,285,300,347,365,394,398,409,412,415,302,342,323,402,278,281,339,351,
374,379,324,380,273,353,382,392,410,299,335,390,413,384,397,272,275,360,389,282,313,326,363,396,286,385,288,289,290,320,322,391,331,333,305,378,408,316,319,337,387,418,388,317,364,344,376,295,308,386,330,343,367,345,296,298,310,354,373,395,279,329,338,358,366,406,407,314,348,303,375,311,332,341,346,377,301,350,416,
274,284,321,372,287,292,307,325,336,400]
2019-12-20 10:05:06.268 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:06.268 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:06.272 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 338 -> 359 which remapped 11.1c08 out from underfull osd.338
2019-12-20 10:05:06.272 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[338,359] remapped 11.1c08 out from underfull osd.338, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:06.272 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158729
2019-12-20 10:05:06.276 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:06.276 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:06.280 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 338 -> 356 which remapped 11.3008 out from underfull osd.338
2019-12-20 10:05:06.280 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[338,356] remapped 11.3008 out from underfull osd.338, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:06.280 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158725
2019-12-20 10:05:06.280 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:06.280 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:06.288 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 338 -> 352 which remapped 11.2593 out from underfull osd.338
2019-12-20 10:05:06.288 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[338,352] remapped 11.2593 out from underfull osd.338, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:06.288 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158731
2019-12-20 10:05:06.288 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:06.288 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:06.292 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 338 -> 356 which remapped 11.216 out from underfull osd.338
2019-12-20 10:05:06.292 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[338,356] remapped 11.216 out from underfull osd.338, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:06.292 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158725
2019-12-20 10:05:06.296 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:06.296 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:06.300 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 332 -> 356 which remapped 11.3cbf out from underfull osd.332
2019-12-20 10:05:06.300 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[332,356] remapped 11.3cbf out from underfull osd.332, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:06.300 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158731
2019-12-20 10:05:06.304 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:06.304 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:06.308 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 332 -> 327 which remapped 11.1a66 out from underfull osd.332
2019-12-20 10:05:06.308 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[332,327] remapped 11.1a66 out from underfull osd.332, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:06.308 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158735
2019-12-20 10:05:06.312 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:06.312 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:06.316 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 332 -> 359 which remapped 11.20b9 out from underfull osd.332
2019-12-20 10:05:06.316 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[332,359] remapped 11.20b9 out from underfull osd.332, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:06.316 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158735
2019-12-20 10:05:06.320 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:06.320 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:06.324 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 332 -> 352 which remapped 11.847 out from underfull osd.332
2019-12-20 10:05:06.324 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[332,352] remapped 11.847 out from underfull osd.332, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:06.324 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158737
2019-12-20 10:05:06.328 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:06.328 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:06.332 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 332 -> 352 which remapped 11.1847 out from underfull osd.332
2019-12-20 10:05:06.332 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[332,352] remapped 11.1847 out from underfull osd.332, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:06.332 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158737
2019-12-20 10:05:06.336 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:06.336 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:06.340 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 332 -> 356 which remapped 11.25be out from underfull osd.332
2019-12-20 10:05:06.340 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[332,356] remapped 11.25be out from underfull osd.332, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:06.340 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158731
2019-12-20 10:05:06.344 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
[...]
2019-12-20 10:05:07.032 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:07.032 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:07.032 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 400 -> 393 which remapped 11.ce6 out from underfull osd.400
2019-12-20 10:05:07.032 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[400,393] remapped 11.ce6 out from underfull osd.400, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:07.032 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158729
2019-12-20 10:05:07.036 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:07.036 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:07.040 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 400 -> 371 which remapped 11.18b6 out from underfull osd.400
2019-12-20 10:05:07.040 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[400,371] remapped 11.18b6 out from underfull osd.400, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:07.040 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158725
2019-12-20 10:05:07.044 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:07.044 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:07.048 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 400 -> 371 which remapped 11.1d3e out from underfull osd.400
2019-12-20 10:05:07.048 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[400,371] remapped 11.1d3e out from underfull osd.400, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:07.048 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158725
2019-12-20 10:05:07.052 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:07.052 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:07.056 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 400 -> 393 which remapped 11.2831 out from underfull osd.400
2019-12-20 10:05:07.056 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[400,393] remapped 11.2831 out from underfull osd.400, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:07.056 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158729
2019-12-20 10:05:07.060 7f91a9c86ac0 10  skipping overfull
2019-12-20 10:05:07.060 7f91a9c86ac0 10  failed to find any changes for
overfull osds
2019-12-20 10:05:07.060 7f91a9c86ac0 10  will try dropping existing
remapping pair 400 -> 371 which remapped 11.2e5e out from underfull osd.400
2019-12-20 10:05:07.060 7f91a9c86ac0 10  existing pg_upmap_items
[400,371] remapped 11.2e5e out from underfull osd.400, will try
cancelling it entirely
2019-12-20 10:05:07.060 7f91a9c86ac0 10  stddev 158655 -> 158725
2019-12-20 10:05:07.060 7f91a9c86ac0 10  hit local_fallback_retries 100
2019-12-20 10:05:07.064 7f91a9c86ac0 10  num_changed = 0
no upmaps proposed

Why is offline optimization failing?

Regards
Thomas

Am 12.12.2019 um 01:34 schrieb David Zafman:
Thomas,

I have a master branch version of the code to test.  The nautilus
backport https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/31956 should be the same.

Using your OSDMap, the code in master branch and some additional
changes to osdmaptool I was able to balance your cluster.  The
osdmaptool changes simulate the mgr active balancer behavior.   It
took 302 rounds with 10 maximum upmaps per crush rule set of pools per
round.  With the default 1 minute sleeps inside the mgr it would take
about 5 hours.  Obviously, recovery/backfill has to finish before the
cluster settles into the new configuration.  It needed 3402 additional
upmaps.

Because all pools for a given crush rule are balanced together you can
see that this is more balanced than Rich's configuration using
Luminous. The pool hdb_backup which has its own rule was the most
difficult to balance.

This balancer code is subject to change before final release of the
next Nautilus point release.


Final layout:

osd.0 pgs 33
osd.1 pgs 31
osd.2 pgs 34
osd.3 pgs 33
osd.4 pgs 31
osd.5 pgs 31
osd.6 pgs 32
osd.7 pgs 31
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osd.9 pgs 28
osd.10 pgs 29
osd.11 pgs 28
osd.12 pgs 263
osd.13 pgs 27
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David

On 12/11/19 6:12 AM, Thomas Schneider wrote:
Hello David,

I'm experiencing issues with OSD balancing, too.
My ceph cluster is running on release
ceph version 14.2.4.1 (596a387fb278758406deabf997735a1f706660c9)
nautilus (stable)

Would you be able to test (the latest code) on my OSDmap and verify if
balancing would work?
I have attached it to this email.

Regards
Thomas






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