Typo below, I meant "I doubled bluestore_compression_min_blob_size_hdd ..." ________________________________________ From: Frank Schilder Sent: 20 June 2019 19:02 To: Dan van der Ster; ceph-users Subject: Re: understanding the bluestore blob, chunk and compression params Hi Dan, this older thread (https://www.mail-archive.com/ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg49339.html) contains details about: - how to get bluestore compression working (must be enabled on pool as well as OSD) - what the best compression ratio is depending on the application (if applications do not give hints, it is bluestore_min_alloc_size_hdd/bluestore_compression_min_blob_size_hdd, which is usually 0.5 as you observe). I doubled bluestore_min_alloc_size_hdd to get to 0.25. There are trade-offs for random I/O performance. However, since I use EC pools, I have those any ways. For replicated pools, the aggregated IOPs might be heavily affected. I have, however, no data on that case. Hope that helps, Frank ================= Frank Schilder AIT Risø Campus Bygning 109, rum S14 ________________________________________ From: ceph-users <ceph-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Dan van der Ster <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: 20 June 2019 17:23:51 To: ceph-users Subject: Re: understanding the bluestore blob, chunk and compression params P.S. I know this has been discussed before, but the compression_(mode|algorithm) pool options [1] seem completely broken -- With the pool mode set to force, we see that sometimes the compression is invoked and sometimes it isn't. AFAICT, the only way to compress every object is to set bluestore_compression_mode=force on the osd. -- dan [1] http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/pools/#set-pool-values On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:33 PM Dan van der Ster <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm trying to compress an rbd pool via backfilling the existing data, > and the allocated space doesn't match what I expect. > > Here is the test: I marked osd.130 out and waited for it to erase all its data. > Then I set (on the pool) compression_mode=force and compression_algorithm=zstd. > Then I marked osd.130 to get its PGs/objects back (this time compressing them). > > After a few 10s of minutes we have: > "bluestore_compressed": 989250439, > "bluestore_compressed_allocated": 3859677184, > "bluestore_compressed_original": 7719354368, > > So, the allocated is exactly 50% of original, but we are wasting space > because compressed is 12.8% of original. > > I don't understand why... > > The rbd images all use 4MB objects, and we use the default chunk and > blob sizes (in v13.2.6): > osd_recovery_max_chunk = 8MB > bluestore_compression_max_blob_size_hdd = 512kB > bluestore_compression_min_blob_size_hdd = 128kB > bluestore_max_blob_size_hdd = 512kB > bluestore_min_alloc_size_hdd = 64kB > > From my understanding, backfilling should read a whole 4MB object from > the src osd, then write it to osd.130's bluestore, compressing in > 512kB blobs. Those compress on average at 12.8% so I would expect to > see allocated being closer to bluestore_min_alloc_size_hdd / > bluestore_compression_max_blob_size_hdd = 12.5%. > > Does someone understand where the 0.5 ratio is coming from? > > Thanks! > > Dan _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com