Re: ceph df space usage confusion - balancing needed?

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All OSDs are of the very same size. One OSD host has slightly more disks (33 instead of 31), though. 
So also that that can't explain the hefty difference. 

I attach the output of "ceph osd tree" and "ceph osd df". 

The crush rule for the ceph_data pool is:
rule cephfs_data {
        id 2
        type erasure
        min_size 3
        max_size 6
        step set_chooseleaf_tries 5
        step set_choose_tries 100
        step take default class hdd
        step chooseleaf indep 0 type host
        step emit
}
So that only considers the hdd device class. EC is done with k=4 m=2. 

So I don't see any imbalance on the hardware level, but only a somewhat uneven distribution of PGs. 
Am I missing something, or is this really just a case for the ceph balancer plugin? 
I'm just a bit astonished this effect is so huge. 
Maybe our 4096 PGs for the ceph_data pool are not enough to get an even distribution without balancing? 
But it yields about 100 PGs per OSD, as you can see... 

--------------------------------------------------------------
# ceph osd tree
ID  CLASS WEIGHT    TYPE NAME       STATUS REWEIGHT PRI-AFF 
 -1       826.26428 root default                            
 -3         0.43700     host mon001                         
  0   ssd   0.21799         osd.0       up  1.00000 1.00000 
  1   ssd   0.21799         osd.1       up  1.00000 1.00000 
 -5         0.43700     host mon002                         
  2   ssd   0.21799         osd.2       up  1.00000 1.00000 
  3   ssd   0.21799         osd.3       up  1.00000 1.00000 
-31         1.81898     host mon003                         
230   ssd   0.90999         osd.230     up  1.00000 1.00000 
231   ssd   0.90999         osd.231     up  1.00000 1.00000 
-10       116.64600     host osd001                         
  4   hdd   3.64499         osd.4       up  1.00000 1.00000 
  5   hdd   3.64499         osd.5       up  1.00000 1.00000 
  6   hdd   3.64499         osd.6       up  1.00000 1.00000 
  7   hdd   3.64499         osd.7       up  1.00000 1.00000 
  8   hdd   3.64499         osd.8       up  1.00000 1.00000 
  9   hdd   3.64499         osd.9       up  1.00000 1.00000 
 10   hdd   3.64499         osd.10      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 11   hdd   3.64499         osd.11      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 12   hdd   3.64499         osd.12      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 13   hdd   3.64499         osd.13      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 14   hdd   3.64499         osd.14      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 15   hdd   3.64499         osd.15      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 16   hdd   3.64499         osd.16      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 17   hdd   3.64499         osd.17      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 18   hdd   3.64499         osd.18      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 19   hdd   3.64499         osd.19      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 20   hdd   3.64499         osd.20      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 21   hdd   3.64499         osd.21      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 22   hdd   3.64499         osd.22      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 23   hdd   3.64499         osd.23      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 24   hdd   3.64499         osd.24      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 25   hdd   3.64499         osd.25      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 26   hdd   3.64499         osd.26      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 27   hdd   3.64499         osd.27      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 28   hdd   3.64499         osd.28      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 29   hdd   3.64499         osd.29      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 30   hdd   3.64499         osd.30      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 31   hdd   3.64499         osd.31      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 32   hdd   3.64499         osd.32      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 33   hdd   3.64499         osd.33      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 34   hdd   3.64499         osd.34      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 35   hdd   3.64499         osd.35      up  1.00000 1.00000 
-13       116.64600     host osd002                         
 36   hdd   3.64499         osd.36      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 37   hdd   3.64499         osd.37      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 38   hdd   3.64499         osd.38      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 39   hdd   3.64499         osd.39      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 40   hdd   3.64499         osd.40      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 41   hdd   3.64499         osd.41      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 42   hdd   3.64499         osd.42      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 43   hdd   3.64499         osd.43      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 44   hdd   3.64499         osd.44      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 45   hdd   3.64499         osd.45      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 46   hdd   3.64499         osd.46      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 47   hdd   3.64499         osd.47      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 48   hdd   3.64499         osd.48      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 49   hdd   3.64499         osd.49      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 50   hdd   3.64499         osd.50      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 51   hdd   3.64499         osd.51      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 52   hdd   3.64499         osd.52      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 53   hdd   3.64499         osd.53      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 54   hdd   3.64499         osd.54      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 55   hdd   3.64499         osd.55      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 56   hdd   3.64499         osd.56      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 57   hdd   3.64499         osd.57      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 58   hdd   3.64499         osd.58      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 59   hdd   3.64499         osd.59      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 60   hdd   3.64499         osd.60      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 61   hdd   3.64499         osd.61      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 62   hdd   3.64499         osd.62      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 63   hdd   3.64499         osd.63      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 64   hdd   3.64499         osd.64      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 65   hdd   3.64499         osd.65      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 66   hdd   3.64499         osd.66      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 67   hdd   3.64499         osd.67      up  1.00000 1.00000 
-16       116.63899     host osd003                         
 68   hdd   3.64499         osd.68      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 69   hdd   3.64499         osd.69      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 70   hdd   3.64499         osd.70      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 71   hdd   3.64499         osd.71      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 72   hdd   3.64499         osd.72      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 73   hdd   3.64499         osd.73      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 74   hdd   3.64499         osd.74      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 75   hdd   3.64499         osd.75      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 76   hdd   3.64499         osd.76      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 77   hdd   3.64499         osd.77      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 78   hdd   3.64499         osd.78      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 79   hdd   3.64499         osd.79      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 80   hdd   3.63899         osd.80      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 81   hdd   3.64499         osd.81      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 82   hdd   3.64499         osd.82      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 83   hdd   3.64499         osd.83      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 84   hdd   3.64499         osd.84      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 85   hdd   3.64499         osd.85      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 86   hdd   3.64499         osd.86      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 87   hdd   3.64499         osd.87      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 88   hdd   3.64499         osd.88      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 89   hdd   3.64499         osd.89      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 90   hdd   3.64499         osd.90      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 91   hdd   3.64499         osd.91      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 92   hdd   3.64499         osd.92      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 93   hdd   3.64499         osd.93      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 94   hdd   3.64499         osd.94      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 95   hdd   3.64499         osd.95      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 96   hdd   3.64499         osd.96      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 97   hdd   3.64499         osd.97      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 98   hdd   3.64499         osd.98      up  1.00000 1.00000 
 99   hdd   3.64499         osd.99      up  1.00000 1.00000 
-19       116.64600     host osd004                         
100   hdd   3.64499         osd.100     up  1.00000 1.00000 
101   hdd   3.64499         osd.101     up  1.00000 1.00000 
102   hdd   3.64499         osd.102     up  1.00000 1.00000 
103   hdd   3.64499         osd.103     up  1.00000 1.00000 
104   hdd   3.64499         osd.104     up  1.00000 1.00000 
105   hdd   3.64499         osd.105     up  1.00000 1.00000 
106   hdd   3.64499         osd.106     up  1.00000 1.00000 
107   hdd   3.64499         osd.107     up  1.00000 1.00000 
108   hdd   3.64499         osd.108     up  1.00000 1.00000 
109   hdd   3.64499         osd.109     up  1.00000 1.00000 
110   hdd   3.64499         osd.110     up  1.00000 1.00000 
111   hdd   3.64499         osd.111     up  1.00000 1.00000 
112   hdd   3.64499         osd.112     up  1.00000 1.00000 
113   hdd   3.64499         osd.113     up  1.00000 1.00000 
114   hdd   3.64499         osd.114     up  1.00000 1.00000 
115   hdd   3.64499         osd.115     up  1.00000 1.00000 
116   hdd   3.64499         osd.116     up  1.00000 1.00000 
117   hdd   3.64499         osd.117     up  1.00000 1.00000 
118   hdd   3.64499         osd.118     up  1.00000 1.00000 
119   hdd   3.64499         osd.119     up  1.00000 1.00000 
120   hdd   3.64499         osd.120     up  1.00000 1.00000 
121   hdd   3.64499         osd.121     up  1.00000 1.00000 
122   hdd   3.64499         osd.122     up  1.00000 1.00000 
123   hdd   3.64499         osd.123     up  1.00000 1.00000 
124   hdd   3.64499         osd.124     up  1.00000 1.00000 
125   hdd   3.64499         osd.125     up  1.00000 1.00000 
126   hdd   3.64499         osd.126     up  1.00000 1.00000 
127   hdd   3.64499         osd.127     up  1.00000 1.00000 
128   hdd   3.64499         osd.128     up  1.00000 1.00000 
129   hdd   3.64499         osd.129     up  1.00000 1.00000 
130   hdd   3.64499         osd.130     up  1.00000 1.00000 
131   hdd   3.64499         osd.131     up  1.00000 1.00000 
-22       116.64600     host osd005                         
132   hdd   3.64499         osd.132     up  1.00000 1.00000 
133   hdd   3.64499         osd.133     up  1.00000 1.00000 
134   hdd   3.64499         osd.134     up  1.00000 1.00000 
135   hdd   3.64499         osd.135     up  1.00000 1.00000 
136   hdd   3.64499         osd.136     up  1.00000 1.00000 
137   hdd   3.64499         osd.137     up  1.00000 1.00000 
138   hdd   3.64499         osd.138     up  1.00000 1.00000 
139   hdd   3.64499         osd.139     up  1.00000 1.00000 
140   hdd   3.64499         osd.140     up  1.00000 1.00000 
141   hdd   3.64499         osd.141     up  1.00000 1.00000 
142   hdd   3.64499         osd.142     up  1.00000 1.00000 
143   hdd   3.64499         osd.143     up  1.00000 1.00000 
144   hdd   3.64499         osd.144     up  1.00000 1.00000 
145   hdd   3.64499         osd.145     up  1.00000 1.00000 
146   hdd   3.64499         osd.146     up  1.00000 1.00000 
147   hdd   3.64499         osd.147     up  1.00000 1.00000 
148   hdd   3.64499         osd.148     up  1.00000 1.00000 
149   hdd   3.64499         osd.149     up  1.00000 1.00000 
150   hdd   3.64499         osd.150     up  1.00000 1.00000 
151   hdd   3.64499         osd.151     up  1.00000 1.00000 
152   hdd   3.64499         osd.152     up  1.00000 1.00000 
153   hdd   3.64499         osd.153     up  1.00000 1.00000 
154   hdd   3.64499         osd.154     up  1.00000 1.00000 
155   hdd   3.64499         osd.155     up  1.00000 1.00000 
156   hdd   3.64499         osd.156     up  1.00000 1.00000 
157   hdd   3.64499         osd.157     up  1.00000 1.00000 
158   hdd   3.64499         osd.158     up  1.00000 1.00000 
159   hdd   3.64499         osd.159     up  1.00000 1.00000 
160   hdd   3.64499         osd.160     up  1.00000 1.00000 
161   hdd   3.64499         osd.161     up  1.00000 1.00000 
162   hdd   3.64499         osd.162     up  1.00000 1.00000 
163   hdd   3.64499         osd.163     up  1.00000 1.00000 
-25       116.63335     host osd006                         
164   hdd   3.64499         osd.164     up  1.00000 1.00000 
165   hdd   3.64499         osd.165     up  1.00000 1.00000 
166   hdd   3.64499         osd.166     up  1.00000 1.00000 
167   hdd   3.64499         osd.167     up  1.00000 1.00000 
168   hdd   3.64499         osd.168     up  1.00000 1.00000 
169   hdd   3.64499         osd.169     up  1.00000 1.00000 
170   hdd   3.64499         osd.170     up  1.00000 1.00000 
171   hdd   3.64499         osd.171     up  1.00000 1.00000 
172   hdd   3.64499         osd.172     up  1.00000 1.00000 
173   hdd   3.64499         osd.173     up  1.00000 1.00000 
174   hdd   3.64499         osd.174     up  1.00000 1.00000 
175   hdd   3.64499         osd.175     up  1.00000 1.00000 
176   hdd   3.64499         osd.176     up  1.00000 1.00000 
177   hdd   3.64499         osd.177     up  1.00000 1.00000 
178   hdd   3.64499         osd.178     up  1.00000 1.00000 
179   hdd   3.64499         osd.179     up  1.00000 1.00000 
180   hdd   3.64499         osd.180     up  1.00000 1.00000 
181   hdd   3.64499         osd.181     up  1.00000 1.00000 
182   hdd   3.64499         osd.182     up  1.00000 1.00000 
183   hdd   3.64499         osd.183     up  1.00000 1.00000 
184   hdd   3.64499         osd.184     up  1.00000 1.00000 
185   hdd   3.64499         osd.185     up  1.00000 1.00000 
186   hdd   3.64499         osd.186     up  1.00000 1.00000 
187   hdd   3.64499         osd.187     up  1.00000 1.00000 
188   hdd   3.64499         osd.188     up  1.00000 1.00000 
189   hdd   3.64499         osd.189     up  1.00000 1.00000 
190   hdd   3.64499         osd.190     up  1.00000 1.00000 
191   hdd   3.64499         osd.191     up  1.00000 1.00000 
192   hdd   3.63869         osd.192     up  1.00000 1.00000 
193   hdd   3.64499         osd.193     up  1.00000 1.00000 
194   hdd   3.64499         osd.194     up  1.00000 1.00000 
195   hdd   3.64499         osd.195     up  1.00000 1.00000 
-28       123.71500     host osd007                         
196   hdd   3.63899         osd.196     up  1.00000 1.00000 
197   hdd   3.63899         osd.197     up  1.00000 1.00000 
198   hdd   3.63899         osd.198     up  1.00000 1.00000 
199   hdd   3.63899         osd.199     up  1.00000 1.00000 
200   hdd   3.63899         osd.200     up  1.00000 1.00000 
201   hdd   3.63899         osd.201     up  1.00000 1.00000 
202   hdd   3.63899         osd.202     up  1.00000 1.00000 
203   hdd   3.63899         osd.203     up  1.00000 1.00000 
204   hdd   3.63899         osd.204     up  1.00000 1.00000 
205   hdd   3.63899         osd.205     up  1.00000 1.00000 
206   hdd   3.63899         osd.206     up  1.00000 1.00000 
207   hdd   3.63899         osd.207     up  1.00000 1.00000 
208   hdd   3.63899         osd.208     up  1.00000 1.00000 
209   hdd   3.63899         osd.209     up  1.00000 1.00000 
210   hdd   3.63899         osd.210     up  1.00000 1.00000 
211   hdd   3.63899         osd.211     up  1.00000 1.00000 
212   hdd   3.63899         osd.212     up  1.00000 1.00000 
213   hdd   3.63899         osd.213     up  1.00000 1.00000 
214   hdd   3.63899         osd.214     up  1.00000 1.00000 
215   hdd   3.63899         osd.215     up  1.00000 1.00000 
216   hdd   3.63899         osd.216     up  1.00000 1.00000 
217   hdd   3.63899         osd.217     up  1.00000 1.00000 
218   hdd   3.63899         osd.218     up  1.00000 1.00000 
219   hdd   3.63899         osd.219     up  1.00000 1.00000 
220   hdd   3.63899         osd.220     up  1.00000 1.00000 
221   hdd   3.63899         osd.221     up  1.00000 1.00000 
222   hdd   3.63899         osd.222     up  1.00000 1.00000 
223   hdd   3.63899         osd.223     up  1.00000 1.00000 
224   hdd   3.63899         osd.224     up  1.00000 1.00000 
225   hdd   3.63899         osd.225     up  1.00000 1.00000 
226   hdd   3.63899         osd.226     up  1.00000 1.00000 
227   hdd   3.63899         osd.227     up  1.00000 1.00000 
228   hdd   3.63899         osd.228     up  1.00000 1.00000 
229   hdd   3.63899         osd.229     up  1.00000 1.00000 

# ceph osd df 
ID  CLASS WEIGHT  REWEIGHT SIZE  USE   AVAIL %USE  VAR  PGS 
  0   ssd 0.21799  1.00000  223G 4305M  219G  1.88 0.04  64 
  1   ssd 0.21799  1.00000  223G 3353M  220G  1.46 0.03  64 
  2   ssd 0.21799  1.00000  223G 1836M  221G  0.80 0.02  56 
  3   ssd 0.21799  1.00000  223G 2276M  221G  0.99 0.02  72 
230   ssd 0.90999  1.00000  931G 2775M  928G  0.29 0.01  60 
231   ssd 0.90999  1.00000  931G 3279M  928G  0.34 0.01  68 
  4   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1916G 1809G 51.45 1.02 111 
  5   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2144G 1581G 57.54 1.15 124 
  6   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1887G 1838G 50.66 1.01 109 
  7   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1642G 2083G 44.09 0.88  95 
  8   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1969G 1756G 52.86 1.05 114 
  9   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1577G 2148G 42.34 0.84  91 
 10   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2043G 1682G 54.85 1.09 118 
 11   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1957G 1768G 52.54 1.05 113 
 12   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1970G 1755G 52.89 1.05 114 
 13   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1676G 2049G 45.00 0.90  97 
 14   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1764G 1961G 47.35 0.94 102 
 15   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2161G 1564G 58.02 1.15 125 
 16   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1749G 1976G 46.96 0.93 101 
 17   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2022G 1703G 54.29 1.08 117 
 18   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1784G 1941G 47.89 0.95 103 
 19   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1783G 1942G 47.85 0.95 103 
 20   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1731G 1994G 46.47 0.92 100 
 21   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1939G 1786G 52.06 1.04 112 
 22   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2061G 1664G 55.34 1.10 119 
 23   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1538G 2187G 41.29 0.82  89 
 24   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2168G 1557G 58.19 1.16 125 
 25   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2023G 1702G 54.32 1.08 117 
 26   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1900G 1825G 51.00 1.02 110 
 27   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2126G 1599G 57.08 1.14 123 
 28   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1938G 1787G 52.02 1.04 112 
 29   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1663G 2062G 44.65 0.89  96 
 30   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2163G 1562G 58.07 1.16 125 
 31   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1919G 1806G 51.52 1.03 111 
 32   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1696G 2029G 45.52 0.91  98 
 33   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1438G 2287G 38.61 0.77  83 
 34   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2073G 1652G 55.64 1.11 120 
 35   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2079G 1646G 55.81 1.11 120 
 36   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1955G 1770G 52.50 1.04 113 
 37   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2180G 1545G 58.51 1.16 126 
 38   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1664G 2061G 44.66 0.89  96 
 39   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2003G 1722G 53.77 1.07 116 
 40   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1782G 1943G 47.84 0.95 103 
 41   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1903G 1822G 51.08 1.02 110 
 42   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1747G 1978G 46.89 0.93 101 
 43   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2021G 1704G 54.26 1.08 117 
 44   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1852G 1873G 49.71 0.99 107 
 45   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1522G 2203G 40.87 0.81  88 
 46   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1851G 1874G 49.69 0.99 107 
 47   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1698G 2027G 45.59 0.91  98 
 48   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1940G 1785G 52.08 1.04 112 
 49   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1746G 1979G 46.88 0.93 101 
 50   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1728G 1997G 46.40 0.92 100 
 51   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2093G 1632G 56.18 1.12 121 
 52   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2235G 1490G 60.01 1.19 129 
 53   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1871G 1854G 50.23 1.00 108 
 54   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2094G 1631G 56.22 1.12 121 
 55   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2422G 1303G 65.02 1.29 140 
 56   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1867G 1858G 50.13 1.00 108 
 57   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1729G 1996G 46.43 0.92 100 
 58   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1976G 1749G 53.05 1.06 114 
 59   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1954G 1771G 52.46 1.04 113 
 60   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1851G 1874G 49.68 0.99 107 
 61   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2042G 1683G 54.82 1.09 118 
 62   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1921G 1804G 51.58 1.03 111 
 63   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2128G 1597G 57.13 1.14 123 
 64   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2037G 1688G 54.67 1.09 118 
 65   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1970G 1755G 52.89 1.05 114 
 66   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1539G 2186G 41.32 0.82  89 
 67   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1867G 1858G 50.13 1.00 108 
 68   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1884G 1841G 50.58 1.01 109 
 69   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2092G 1633G 56.16 1.12 121 
 70   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1800G 1925G 48.33 0.96 104 
 71   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2231G 1494G 59.89 1.19 129 
 72   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1557G 2168G 41.79 0.83  90 
 73   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2300G 1425G 61.75 1.23 133 
 74   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2132G 1593G 57.24 1.14 123 
 75   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1818G 1907G 48.80 0.97 105 
 76   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2231G 1494G 59.89 1.19 129 
 77   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1749G 1976G 46.96 0.93 101 
 78   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1766G 1959G 47.41 0.94 102 
 79   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1678G 2047G 45.04 0.90  97 
 80   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1744G 1981G 46.82 0.93 102 
 81   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1884G 1841G 50.58 1.01 109 
 82   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1711G 2014G 45.93 0.91  99 
 83   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1728G 1997G 46.39 0.92 100 
 84   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1834G 1891G 49.22 0.98 106 
 85   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1709G 2016G 45.88 0.91  99 
 86   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1938G 1787G 52.03 1.04 112 
 87   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2131G 1594G 57.19 1.14 123 
 88   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1559G 2166G 41.85 0.83  90 
 89   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1645G 2080G 44.16 0.88  95 
 90   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2045G 1680G 54.89 1.09 118 
 91   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2164G 1561G 58.09 1.16 125 
 92   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1922G 1803G 51.59 1.03 111 
 93   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1938G 1787G 52.03 1.04 112 
 94   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1971G 1754G 52.91 1.05 114 
 95   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1917G 1808G 51.47 1.02 111 
 96   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1814G 1911G 48.70 0.97 105 
 97   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1660G 2065G 44.57 0.89  96 
 98   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1904G 1821G 51.10 1.02 110 
 99   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2112G 1613G 56.70 1.13 122 
100   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1869G 1856G 50.18 1.00 108 
101   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2005G 1720G 53.84 1.07 116 
102   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2039G 1686G 54.73 1.09 118 
103   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2093G 1632G 56.20 1.12 121 
104   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1884G 1841G 50.58 1.01 109 
105   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1867G 1858G 50.13 1.00 108 
106   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1956G 1769G 52.51 1.05 113 
107   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2077G 1648G 55.74 1.11 120 
108   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1990G 1735G 53.43 1.06 115 
109   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1781G 1944G 47.80 0.95 103 
110   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1869G 1856G 50.17 1.00 108 
111   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2023G 1702G 54.30 1.08 117 
112   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2007G 1718G 53.89 1.07 116 
113   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1851G 1874G 49.70 0.99 107 
114   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1832G 1893G 49.18 0.98 106 
115   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2098G 1627G 56.32 1.12 121 
116   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1866G 1859G 50.10 1.00 108 
117   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1764G 1961G 47.36 0.94 102 
118   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1816G 1909G 48.76 0.97 105 
119   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1733G 1992G 46.53 0.93 100 
120   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1992G 1733G 53.48 1.06 115 
121   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1657G 2068G 44.48 0.89  96 
122   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1715G 2010G 46.04 0.92  99 
123   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1974G 1751G 53.00 1.05 114 
124   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1731G 1994G 46.48 0.93 100 
125   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1897G 1828G 50.94 1.01 110 
126   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1990G 1735G 53.42 1.06 115 
127   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1972G 1753G 52.93 1.05 114 
128   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1888G 1837G 50.68 1.01 109 
129   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2025G 1700G 54.35 1.08 117 
130   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1747G 1978G 46.90 0.93 101 
131   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2061G 1664G 55.32 1.10 119 
132   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2185G 1540G 58.65 1.17 126 
133   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1764G 1961G 47.35 0.94 102 
134   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1782G 1943G 47.84 0.95 103 
135   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1675G 2050G 44.96 0.89  97 
136   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1889G 1836G 50.70 1.01 109 
137   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1954G 1771G 52.45 1.04 113 
138   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1694G 2031G 45.49 0.91  98 
139   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2114G 1611G 56.76 1.13 122 
140   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1726G 1999G 46.35 0.92 100 
141   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1988G 1737G 53.36 1.06 115 
142   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2181G 1544G 58.55 1.17 126 
143   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1853G 1872G 49.74 0.99 107 
144   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2144G 1581G 57.56 1.15 124 
145   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1868G 1857G 50.14 1.00 108 
146   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2078G 1647G 55.77 1.11 120 
147   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1992G 1733G 53.49 1.06 115 
148   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1728G 1997G 46.39 0.92 100 
149   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2162G 1563G 58.03 1.15 125 
150   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2005G 1720G 53.83 1.07 116 
151   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1918G 1807G 51.49 1.02 111 
152   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1921G 1804G 51.57 1.03 111 
153   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1783G 1942G 47.86 0.95 103 
154   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2005G 1720G 53.82 1.07 116 
155   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1853G 1873G 49.73 0.99 107 
156   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1626G 2099G 43.65 0.87  94 
157   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1802G 1923G 48.38 0.96 104 
158   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1765G 1960G 47.39 0.94 102 
159   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1990G 1735G 53.42 1.06 115 
160   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1901G 1824G 51.02 1.02 110 
161   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1906G 1819G 51.16 1.02 110 
162   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1763G 1962G 47.33 0.94 102 
163   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1800G 1925G 48.33 0.96 104 
164   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1922G 1803G 51.61 1.03 111 
165   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1731G 1994G 46.46 0.92 100 
166   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2027G 1699G 54.40 1.08 117 
167   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1956G 1769G 52.50 1.04 113 
168   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1853G 1872G 49.74 0.99 107 
169   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1884G 1841G 50.59 1.01 109 
170   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1992G 1733G 53.48 1.06 115 
171   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1898G 1827G 50.96 1.01 110 
172   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1781G 1944G 47.82 0.95 103 
173   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1628G 2097G 43.71 0.87  94 
174   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1992G 1733G 53.48 1.06 115 
175   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1905G 1820G 51.15 1.02 110 
176   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1709G 2016G 45.89 0.91  99 
177   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1991G 1734G 53.44 1.06 115 
178   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1973G 1752G 52.97 1.05 114 
179   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1574G 2151G 42.26 0.84  91 
180   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1917G 1808G 51.46 1.02 111 
181   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1937G 1788G 52.00 1.03 112 
182   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1989G 1736G 53.40 1.06 115 
183   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2039G 1686G 54.74 1.09 118 
184   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1868G 1857G 50.16 1.00 108 
185   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1954G 1771G 52.45 1.04 113 
186   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1850G 1875G 49.66 0.99 107 
187   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1851G 1874G 49.68 0.99 107 
188   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1814G 1911G 48.69 0.97 105 
189   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2286G 1439G 61.36 1.22 132 
190   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 2060G 1665G 55.31 1.10 119 
191   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1836G 1889G 49.29 0.98 106 
192   hdd 3.63869  1.00000 3726G 1721G 2004G 46.21 0.92 101 
193   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1953G 1772G 52.43 1.04 113 
194   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1541G 2184G 41.37 0.82  89 
195   hdd 3.64499  1.00000 3726G 1837G 1888G 49.32 0.98 106 
196   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1705G 2020G 45.79 0.91 100 
197   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1743G 1982G 46.78 0.93 102 
198   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1982G 1743G 53.21 1.06 116 
199   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1382G 2343G 37.11 0.74  81 
200   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1893G 1832G 50.83 1.01 111 
201   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1845G 1880G 49.54 0.99 108 
202   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1658G 2067G 44.51 0.89  97 
203   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 2066G 1659G 55.47 1.10 121 
204   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1672G 2053G 44.90 0.89  98 
205   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1521G 2204G 40.84 0.81  89 
206   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1796G 1929G 48.22 0.96 105 
207   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1555G 2170G 41.75 0.83  91 
208   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1742G 1983G 46.77 0.93 102 
209   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 2016G 1709G 54.11 1.08 118 
210   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 2136G 1589G 57.34 1.14 125 
211   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1656G 2069G 44.46 0.88  97 
212   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1553G 2172G 41.71 0.83  91 
213   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1758G 1967G 47.19 0.94 103 
214   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1603G 2122G 43.03 0.86  94 
215   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1809G 1916G 48.57 0.97 106 
216   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1760G 1965G 47.26 0.94 103 
217   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1742G 1983G 46.77 0.93 102 
218   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1880G 1845G 50.46 1.00 110 
219   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1693G 2032G 45.45 0.90  99 
220   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 2032G 1693G 54.56 1.09 119 
221   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1842G 1883G 49.44 0.98 108 
222   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1521G 2204G 40.84 0.81  89 
223   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1470G 2255G 39.46 0.79  86 
224   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1808G 1917G 48.53 0.97 106 
225   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1893G 1832G 50.83 1.01 111 
226   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1776G 1949G 47.69 0.95 104 
227   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1929G 1796G 51.78 1.03 113 
228   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1657G 2068G 44.48 0.89  97 
229   hdd 3.63899  1.00000 3726G 1843G 1882G 49.47 0.98 108 
                     TOTAL  825T  414T  410T 50.24          
MIN/MAX VAR: 0.01/1.29  STDDEV: 9.22
--------------------------------------------------------------

Am 20.10.18 um 20:35 schrieb Janne Johansson:
> Yes, if you have uneven sizes I guess you could end up in a situation
> where you have
> lots of 1TB OSDs and a number of 2TB OSD but pool replication forces
> the pool to have one
> PG replica on the 1TB OSD, then it would be possible to state "this
> pool cant write more than X G"
> but when it is full, there would be free space left on some of the
> 2TB-OSDs, but which the pool
> cant utilize. Probably same for uneven OSD hosts if you have those.
> 
> Den lör 20 okt. 2018 kl 20:28 skrev Oliver Freyermuth
> <freyermuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>> Dear Janne,
>>
>> yes, of course. But since we only have two pools here, this can not explain the difference.
>> The metadata is replicated (3 copies) across ssd drives, and we have < 3 TB of total raw storage for that.
>> So looking at the raw space usage, we can ignore that.
>>
>> All the rest is used for the ceph_data pool. So the ceph_data pool, in terms of raw storage, is about 50 % used.
>>
>> But in terms of storage shown for that pool, it's almost 63 % %USED.
>> So I guess this can purely be from bad balancing, correct?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>         Oliver
>>
>> Am 20.10.18 um 19:49 schrieb Janne Johansson:
>>> Do mind that drives may have more than one pool on them, so RAW space
>>> is what it says, how much free space there is. Then the avail and
>>> %USED on per-pool stats will take replication into account, it can
>>> tell how much data you may write into that particular pool, given that
>>> pools replication or EC settings.
>>>
>>> Den lör 20 okt. 2018 kl 19:09 skrev Oliver Freyermuth
>>> <freyermuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Cephalopodians,
>>>>
>>>> as many others, I'm also a bit confused by "ceph df" output
>>>> in a pretty straightforward configuration.
>>>>
>>>> We have a CephFS (12.2.7) running, with 4+2 EC profile.
>>>>
>>>> I get:
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> # ceph df
>>>> GLOBAL:
>>>>     SIZE     AVAIL     RAW USED     %RAW USED
>>>>     824T      410T         414T         50.26
>>>> POOLS:
>>>>     NAME                ID     USED     %USED     MAX AVAIL     OBJECTS
>>>>     cephfs_metadata     1      452M      0.05          860G       365774
>>>>     cephfs_data         2      275T     62.68          164T     75056403
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> So about 50 % of raw space are used, but already ~63 % of filesystem space are used.
>>>> Is this purely from imperfect balancing?
>>>> In "ceph osd df", I do indeed see OSD usages spreading from 65.02 % usage down to 37.12 %.
>>>>
>>>> We did not yet use the balancer plugin.
>>>> We don't have any pre-luminous clients.
>>>> In that setup, I take it that "upmap" mode would be recommended - correct?
>>>> Any "gotchas" using that on luminous?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>         Oliver
>>>>
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>>
>>
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