Re: ceph balancer: further optimizations?

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Am 21.08.2018 um 11:47 schrieb Dan van der Ster:
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:45 PM Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
> <s.priebe@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 20.08.2018 um 22:38 schrieb Dan van der Ster:
>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:19 PM Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
>>> <s.priebe@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 20.08.2018 um 21:52 schrieb Sage Weil:
>>>>> On Mon, 20 Aug 2018, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> since loic seems to have left ceph development and his wunderful crush
>>>>>> optimization tool isn'T working anymore i'm trying to get a good
>>>>>> distribution with the ceph balancer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sadly it does not work as good as i want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # ceph osd df | sort -k8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> show 75 to 83% Usage which is 8% difference which is too much for me.
>>>>>> I'm optimization by bytes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # ceph balancer eval
>>>>>> current cluster score 0.005420 (lower is better)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # ceph balancer eval $OPT_NAME
>>>>>> plan spriebe_2018-08-20_19:36 final score 0.005456 (lower is better)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm unable to optimize further ;-( Is there any chance to optimize
>>>>>> further even in case of more rebelancing?
>>>>>
>>>>> The scoring that the balancer module is doing is currently a hybrid of pg
>>>>> count, bytes, and object count.  Picking a single metric might help a bit
>>>>> (as those 3 things are not always perfectly aligned).
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> ok i found a bug in the balancer code which seems to be present in all
>>>> releases.
>>>>
>>>>  861                     best_ws = next_ws
>>>>  862                     best_ow = next_ow
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> should be:
>>>>
>>>>  861                     best_ws = copy.deepcopy(next_ws)
>>>>  862                     best_ow = copy.deepcopy(next_ow)
>>>>
>>>> otherwise it does not use the best but the last.
>>>
>>> Interesting... does that change improve things?
>>
>> It fixes the following (mgr debug output):
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.078525 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Step result
>> score 0.001152 -> 0.001180, misplacing 0.000912
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.078574 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Score got
>> worse, taking another step
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.078770 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Balancing root
>> default (pools ['cephstor2']) by bytes
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.156326 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Step result
>> score 0.001152 -> 0.001180, misplacing 0.000912
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.156374 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Score got
>> worse, taking another step
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.156581 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Balancing root
>> default (pools ['cephstor2']) by bytes
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.233818 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Step result
>> score 0.001152 -> 0.001180, misplacing 0.000912
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.233868 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Score got
>> worse, taking another step
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.234043 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Balancing root
>> default (pools ['cephstor2']) by bytes
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.313212 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Step result
>> score 0.001152 -> 0.001180, misplacing 0.000912
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.313714 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Score got
>> worse, trying smaller step 0.000244
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.313887 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Balancing root
>> default (pools ['cephstor2']) by bytes
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.391586 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Step result
>> score 0.001152 -> 0.001152, misplacing 0.001141
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.393374 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Balancing root
>> default (pools ['cephstor2']) by bytes
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.473956 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Step result
>> score 0.001152 -> 0.001180, misplacing 0.000912
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.474001 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Score got
>> worse, taking another step
>> 2018-08-20 22:33:46.474046 7f2fbc3b6700  0 mgr[balancer] Success, score
>> 0.001155 -> 0.001152
>>
>> BUT:
>> # ceph balancer eval myplan
>> plan myplan final score 0.001180 (lower is better)
>>
>> So the final plan does NOT contain the expected optimization. The
>> deepcopy fixes it.
>>
>> After:
>> # ceph balancer eval myplan
>> plan myplan final score 0.001152 (lower is better)
>>
> 
> OK that looks like a bug. Did you create a tracker or PR?

No not yet. Should i create a PR on github with the fix?

> -- Dan
> 
> 
>>>
>>> Also, if most of your data is in one pool you can try ceph balancer
>>> eval <pool-name>
>>
>> Already tried this doesn't help much.
>>
>> Greets,
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>>> -- dan
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm also using this one:
>>>> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/20665/commits/c161a74ad6cf006cd9b33b40fd7705b67c170615
>>>>
>>>> to optimize by bytes only.
>>>>
>>>> Greets,
>>>> Stefan
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