Re: Preventing pool from allocating PG to OSD belonging not beloning to the device class defined in crush rule

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Sorry missing the pg dump : 

2.1           0                  0        0         0       0     0   0        0 stale+peering 2018-07-26 19:38:13.381673     0'0    125:9 [3]          3    [3]              3        0'0 2018-07-26 15:20:08.965357             0'0 2018-07-26 15:20:08.965357             0 
2.0           0                  0        0         0       0     0   0        0 stale+peering 2018-07-26 19:38:13.345341     0'0   125:13 [3]          3    [3]              3        0'0 2018-07-26 15:20:08.965357             0'0 2018-07-26 15:20:08.965357             0 
                  
2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
                    
sum 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
OSD_STAT USED  AVAIL TOTAL HB_PEERS PG_SUM PRIMARY_PG_SUM 
3        1051M 1861G 1863G  [0,1,2]    256            256 
2        1051M 1861G 1863G  [0,1,3]      0              0 
1        1051M 3724G 3726G  [0,2,3]      0              0 
0        1051M 1861G 1863G  [1,2,3]      0              0 
sum      4205M 9310G 9315G          

For some reason it seems that some PG are allocated to osd 3 ( but stall + peering) 

This is kind of odd 

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 at 20:50, Benoit Hudzia <benoit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You are correct the PG are stale ( not allocated ) 

[root@stratonode1 /]# ceph status
  cluster:
    id:     ea0df043-7b25-4447-a43d-e9b2af8fe069
    health: HEALTH_WARN
            Reduced data availability: 256 pgs inactive, 256 pgs peering, 256 pgs stale
 
  services:
    mon: 3 daemons, quorum stratonode1.node.strato,stratonode2.node.strato,stratonode0.node.strato
    mgr: stratonode1(active), standbys: stratonode2, stratonode3
    osd: 4 osds: 4 up, 4 in
 
  data:
    pools:   1 pools, 256 pgs
    objects: 0 objects, 0 bytes
    usage:   4192 MB used, 9310 GB / 9315 GB avail
    pgs:     100.000% pgs not active
             256 stale+peering

PG dump : show all PG in stale + peering 

However it s kind of strange it show some PG associated with OSD 3  


So it seems that PGcalc is not taking into account the ruleset ..... 

Do you think that changing ""osd max pg per osd hard ratio""  to a huge number (1M) would be a valid temp workaround  ? 

We always allocate pool with dedicated OSD using the device class rule set , so we never have pool sharing OSD . 

I ll open a bug with ceph regarding pg creation check ignoring the crush ruleset. 


On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 at 17:11, John Spray <jspray@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 4:57 PM Benoit Hudzia <benoit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
HI, 

We currently segregate ceph pool PG allocation using the crush device class ruleset as described: https://ceph.com/community/new-luminous-crush-device-classes/ 
simply using the following command to define the rule :  ceph osd crush rule create-replicated <RULE> default host <DEVICE CLASS>

However, we noticed that the rule is not strict in certain scenarios. By that, I mean that if there is no OSD of the specific device class ceph will allocate PG for this pool to any other OSD available ( creating an issue with the PG calculation when we want to add new pool)

Simple scenario : 
1. create 1 Pool : <pool1> , replication 2 with 4 nodes , 1 OSD each . belonging to class <pool1> 
2. remove all OSD ( delete them ) 
3. create  4 new OSD (using same disk but different ID) but this time tag them with class <pool2> 
4. Try to create pool <pool2> -> this will fail with

the pool creation will fail with  output : Error ERANGE:  pg_num 256 size 2 would mean 1024 total pgs, which exceeds  max 800 (mon_max_pg_per_osd 200 * num_in_osds 4)"

Pool1 simply started allocating PG to OSD that doesn't belong to the ruleset 

Are you sure pool 1's PGs are actually being placed on the wrong OSDs?  Have you looked at the output of "ceph pg dump" to check that?

It sounds more like the pool creation check is simply failing to consider the crush rules and applying a cruder global check.

John
 

Which leads me to the following question:  is there a way to make the crush rule a hard requirement. E.g : if we do not have any osd matching the device class , it won't start trying to allocate pg to OSD that doesn't match it? 

Is there any way to prevent pool 1 to use the OSD ?




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