Hello, On Thu, 10 May 2018 07:24:20 +0000 Gandalf Corvotempesta wrote: > > > Lastly, more often than not segregated networks are not needed, add > > unnecessary complexity and the resources spent on them would be better > > used to have just one fast and redundant network instead. > > Biggest concern here is that I don't have enough 10Gbe ports/switches (due > to their cost), > thus having 4 10GbE (for a fully redundant environment) is not possible and > our current switches > are only with 16 10GBe ports. > Without knowing what your use case is (lots of large reads or writes, or the more typical smallish I/Os) it's hard to give specific advice. In general, switches that support MC-LAG (often called stacked switches, V-LAG) are preferable, giving you 2x bandwidth _and_ redundancy. > Probably, I can buy 2x 24 10GBe switches and use half ports for public > network and the other half for cluster > but this will reduce the environment to only 12 usable ports (so, 12 > "servers" at max, between hypervisors and storages) > As David and I tried to point out, you don't really need separate networks. Especially not with bonding and MC-LAG (vlag, etc) switches. Which would give you 24 servers with up to 20Gb/s per server when both switches are working, something that's likely to be very close to 100% of the time. > Our current storage servers are made with 12 slots (not all used) with SATA > disks, they should provide 12*100MB/s = 1.2GBps/s when reading from all > disks at once, That's a very optimistic number, assuming journal/WAL/DB on SSDs _and_ no concurrent write activity. Since you said hypervisors up there one assumes VMs on RBDs and a mixed I/O pattern, saturating your disks with IOPS long before bandwidth becomes an issue. > thus, a 10GB network would be needed, right ? Maybe a dual gigabit port > bonded together could do the job. > A single gigabit link would be saturated by a single disk. > > Is my assumption correct ? > The biggest argument against the 1GB/s links is the latency as mentioned. Christian -- Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer chibi@xxxxxxx Rakuten Communications _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com