Re: cephfs snapshot format upgrade

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On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Yan, Zheng <ukernel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello
>
> To simplify snapshot handling in multiple active mds setup, we changed
> format of snaprealm in mimic dev.
> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/16779.
>
> The new version mds can handle old format snaprealm in single active
> setup. It also can convert old format snaprealm to the new format when
> snaprealm is modified. The problem is that new version mds can not
> properly handle old format snaprealm in multiple active setup. It may
> crash when it encounter old format snaprealm. For existing filesystem
> with snapshots, upgrading mds to mimic seems to be no problem at first
> glance. But if user later enables multiple active mds,  mds may
> crashes continuously. No easy way to switch back to single acitve mds.
>
> I don't have clear idea how to handle this situation. I can think of a
> few options.
>
> 1. Forbid multiple active before all old snapshots are deleted or
> before all snaprealms are converted to new format. Format conversion
> requires traversing while whole filesystem tree.  Not easy to
> implement.

This has been a general problem with metadata format changes: we can
never know if all the metadata in a filesystem has been brought up to
a particular version.  Scrubbing (where scrub does the updates) should
be the answer, but we don't have the mechanism for recording/ensuring
the scrub has really happened.

Maybe we need the MDS to be able to report a complete whole-filesystem
scrub to the monitor, and record a field like
"latest_scrubbed_version" in FSMap, so that we can be sure that all
the filesystem metadata has been brought up to a certain version
before enabling certain features?  So we'd then have a
"latest_scrubbed_version >= mimic" test before enabling multiple
active daemons.

For this particular situation, we'd also need to protect against
people who had enabled multimds and snapshots experimentally, with an
MDS startup check like:
 ((ever_allowed_features & CEPH_MDSMAP_ALLOW_SNAPS) &&
(allows_multimds() || in.size() >1)) && latest_scrubbed_version <
mimic

John

> 2. Ask user to delete all old snapshots before upgrading to mimic,
> make mds just ignore old format snaprealms.
>
>
> Regards
> Yan, Zheng
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