Hi,
We've used double the defaults for around 6 months now and haven't had any behind on trimming errors in that time.
mds log max segments = 60
mds log max expiring = 40
Should be simple to try.
-- dan
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Stefan Kooman <stefan@xxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
We have two MDS servers. One active, one active-standby. While doing a
parallel rsync of 10 threads with loads of files, dirs, subdirs we get
the following HEALTH_WARN:
ceph health detail
HEALTH_WARN 2 MDSs behind on trimming
MDS_TRIM 2 MDSs behind on trimming
mdsmds2(mds.0): Behind on trimming (124/30)max_segments: 30,
num_segments: 124
mdsmds1(mds.0): Behind on trimming (118/30)max_segments: 30,
num_segments: 118
To be clear: the amount of segments behind on trimming fluctuates. It
sometimes does get smaller, and is relatively stable around ~ 130.
The load on the MDS is low, load on OSDs is low (both CPU/RAM/IO). All
flash, cephfs_metadata co-located on the same OSDs. Using cephfs kernel
client (4.13.0-19-generic) with Ceph 12.2.2 (cllient as well as cluster
runs Ceph 12.2.2). In older threads I found several possible
explanations for getting this warning:
1) When the number of segments exceeds that setting, the MDS starts
writing back metadata so that it can remove (trim) the oldest
segments. If this process is too slow, or a software bug is preventing
trimming, then this health message appears.
2) The OSDs cannot keep up with the load
3) cephfs kernel client mis behaving / bug
I definitely don't think nr 2) is the reason. I doubt it's a Ceph MDS 1)
or client bug 3). Might this be conservative default settings? I.e. not
trying to trim fast / soon enough. John wonders in thread [1] if the
default journal length should be longer. Yan [2] recommends bumping
"mds_log_max_expiring" to a large value (200).
What would you suggest at this point? I'm thinking about the following
changes:
mds log max segments = 200
mds log max expiring = 200
Thanks,
Stefan
[1]: https://www.spinics.net/lists/ceph-users/msg39387.html
[2]:
http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/ 2016-July/011138.html
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