Re: I/O hangs with 2 node failure even if one node isn't involved in I/O

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If you had set min_size to 1 you would not have seen the writes pause. a min_size of 1 is dangerous though because it means you are 1 hard disk failure away from losing the objects within that placement group entirely. a min_size of 2 is generally considered the minimum you want but many people ignore that advice, some wish they hadn't. 

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Adam Carheden <carheden@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks everyone for the replies. Very informative. However, should I
have expected writes to pause if I'd had min_size set to 1 instead of 2?

And yes, I was under the false impression that my rdb devices was a
single object. That explains what all those other things are on a test
cluster where I only created a single object!


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Adam Carheden

On 03/20/2017 08:24 PM, Wes Dillingham wrote:
> This is because of the min_size specification. I would bet you have it
> set at 2 (which is good).
>
> ceph osd pool get rbd min_size
>
> With 4 hosts, and a size of 3, removing 2 of the hosts (or 2 drives 1
> from each hosts) results in some of the objects only having 1 replica
> min_size dictates that IO freezes for those objects until min_size is
> achieved. http://docs.ceph.com/docs/jewel/rados/operations/pools/#set-the-number-of-object-replicas
>
> I cant tell if your under the impression that your RBD device is a
> single object. It is not. It is chunked up into many objects and spread
> throughout the cluster, as Kjeti mentioned earlier.
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Kjetil Jørgensen <kjetil@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:kjetil@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     rbd_id.vm-100-disk-1 is only a "meta object", IIRC, it's contents
>     will get you a "prefix", which then gets you on to
>     rbd_header.<prefix>, rbd_header.prefix contains block size,
>     striping, etc. The actual data bearing objects will be named
>     something like rbd_data.prefix.%-016x.
>
>     Example - vm-100-disk-1 has the prefix 86ce2ae8944a, the first
>     <block size> of that image will be named rbd_data.
>     86ce2ae8944a.000000000000, the second <block size> will be
>     86ce2ae8944a.000000000001, and so on, chances are that one of these
>     objects are mapped to a pg which has both host3 and host4 among it's
>     replicas.
>
>     An rbd image will end up scattered across most/all osds of the pool
>     it's in.
>
>     Cheers,
>     -KJ
>
>     On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Adam Carheden <carheden@xxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:carheden@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>         I have a 4 node cluster shown by `ceph osd tree` below. Monitors are
>         running on hosts 1, 2 and 3. It has a single replicated pool of size
>         3. I have a VM with its hard drive replicated to OSDs 11(host3),
>         5(host1) and 3(host2).
>
>         I can 'fail' any one host by disabling the SAN network interface and
>         the VM keeps running with a simple slowdown in I/O performance
>         just as
>         expected. However, if 'fail' both nodes 3 and 4, I/O hangs on
>         the VM.
>         (i.e. `df` never completes, etc.) The monitors on hosts 1 and 2
>         still
>         have quorum, so that shouldn't be an issue. The placement group
>         still
>         has 2 of its 3 replicas online.
>
>         Why does I/O hang even though host4 isn't running a monitor and
>         doesn't have anything to do with my VM's hard drive.
>
>
>         Size?
>         # ceph osd pool get rbd size
>         size: 3
>
>         Where's rbd_id.vm-100-disk-1?
>         # ceph osd getmap -o /tmp/map && osdmaptool --pool 0
>         --test-map-object
>         rbd_id.vm-100-disk-1 /tmp/map
>         got osdmap epoch 1043
>         osdmaptool: osdmap file '/tmp/map'
>          object 'rbd_id.vm-100-disk-1' -> 0.1ea -> [11,5,3]
>
>         # ceph osd tree
>         ID WEIGHT  TYPE NAME          UP/DOWN REWEIGHT PRIMARY-AFFINITY
>         -1 8.06160 root default
>         -7 5.50308     room A
>         -3 1.88754         host host1
>          4 0.40369             osd.4       up  1.00000          1.00000
>          5 0.40369             osd.5       up  1.00000          1.00000
>          6 0.54008             osd.6       up  1.00000          1.00000
>          7 0.54008             osd.7       up  1.00000          1.00000
>         -2 3.61554         host host2
>          0 0.90388             osd.0       up  1.00000          1.00000
>          1 0.90388             osd.1       up  1.00000          1.00000
>          2 0.90388             osd.2       up  1.00000          1.00000
>          3 0.90388             osd.3       up  1.00000          1.00000
>         -6 2.55852     room B
>         -4 1.75114         host host3
>          8 0.40369             osd.8       up  1.00000          1.00000
>          9 0.40369             osd.9       up  1.00000          1.00000
>         10 0.40369             osd.10      up  1.00000          1.00000
>         11 0.54008             osd.11      up  1.00000          1.00000
>         -5 0.80737         host host4
>         12 0.40369             osd.12      up  1.00000          1.00000
>         13 0.40369             osd.13      up  1.00000          1.00000
>
>
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