Re: [Scst-devel] Thin Provisioning and Ceph RBD's

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On Friday, August 5, 2016, matthew patton <pattonme@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> - ESXI's VMFS5 is aligned on 1MB, so 4MB discards never actually free anything

the proper solution here is to:
* quit worrying about it and buy sufficient disk in the first place, it's not exactly expensive

I would do that for one or a couple environments, or if I sold drives :).   However, the two use cases that are of importance to my group still warrant figuring this out:

- Large medical image collections or frequently modified database files (quite a few deletes and creates)

- Passing VMWare certification.  It means a lot to people without deep dtorage knowledge, to make a decision on adopting a technology


* ask VMware to have the decency to add a flag to vmkfstools to specify the offset

Preaching to the choir!  I will ask.  Hope someone will listen.

* create a small dummy VMFS on the block device that allows you to create a second filesystem behind it that's aligned on a 4MB boundary. Or perhaps simpler, create a thick-zeroed VMDK (3+minimum size + extra) on the VMFS such that the next VMDK created falls on the desired boundary.

I wonder how to do this for the test, or use a small partition like Vlad described.  I will try that with one of their unmap tests

* use NFS like *deity* intended like any other sane person, nobody uses block storage anymore for precisely these kinds of reasons.

Working in that direction too.  A bit concerned of the double writes of the backing filesystem, then double writes for RADOS.  Per Nick, this still works better than block.  But having gone through 95% of certification for block, I feel like I should finish it before jumping on to the next thing.

Thank you for your input, it is very practical and helpful long term.

Alex




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