Re: SSD Journal

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Hello,

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:34:35 +0000 Ashley Merrick wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Looking at using 2 x 960GB SSD's (SM863)
>
Massive overkill.
 
> Reason for larger is I was thinking would be better off with them in Raid 1 so enough space for OS and all Journals.
>
As I pointed out several times in this ML, Ceph journal usage rarely
exceeds hundreds of MB, let alone several GB with default parameters.
So 10GB per journal is plenty, unless you're doing something very special
(and you aren't with normal HDDs as OSDs).
 
> Instead am I better off using 2 x 200GB S3700's instead, with 5 disks per a SSD?
>
S3700s are unfortunately EOL'ed, the 200GB ones were great at 375MB/s.
200GB S3710s are about on par for 5 HDDs at 300MB/s, but if you can afford
it and have a 10Gb/s network, the 400GB ones at 470MB/s would be optimal.

As for sharing the SSDs with OS, I do that all the time, the minute
logging of a storage node really has next to no impact.

I prefer this over using DoMs for reasons of:
1. Redundancy
2. hot-swapability  

If you go the DoM route, make sure it's size AND endurance are a match for
what you need. 
This is especially important if you were to run a MON on those machines as
well.
 
Christian

> Thanks,
> Ashley
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Balzer [mailto:chibi@xxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 13 July 2016 01:12
> To: ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Wido den Hollander <wido@xxxxxxxx>; Ashley Merrick <ashley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re:  SSD Journal
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:14:14 +0200 (CEST) Wido den Hollander wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > Op 12 juli 2016 om 15:31 schreef Ashley Merrick <ashley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > Looking at final stages of planning / setup for a CEPH Cluster.
> > > 
> > > Per a Storage node looking @
> > > 
> > > 2 x SSD OS / Journal
> > > 10 x SATA Disk
> > > 
> > > Will have a small Raid 1 Partition for the OS, however not sure if best to do:
> > > 
> > > 5 x Journal Per a SSD
> > 
> > Best solution. Will give you the most performance for the OSDs. RAID-1 will just burn through cycles on the SSDs.
> > 
> > SSDs don't fail that often.
> >
> What Wido wrote, but let us know what SSDs you're planning to use.
> 
> Because the detailed version of that sentence should read: 
> "Well known and tested DC level SSDs whose size/endurance levels are matched to the workload rarely fail, especially unexpected."
>  
> > Wido
> > 
> > > 10 x Journal on Raid 1 of two SSD's
> > > 
> > > Is the "Performance" increase from splitting 5 Journal's on each SSD worth the "issue" caused when one SSD goes down?
> > > 
> As always, assume at least a node being the failure domain you need to be able to handle.
> 
> Christian
> 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ashley
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