Currently, after an OSD has been down for 5 minutes, we mark the OSD "out", whic redistributes the data to other OSDs in the cluster. If the OSD comes back up, it marks the OSD back in (with the same reweight value, usually 1.0). The good thing about marking OSDs out is that exactly the amount of data on the OSD moves. (Well, pretty close.) It is uniformly distributed across all other devices. The bad thing is that if the OSD really is dead, and you remove it from the cluster, or replace it and recreate the new OSD with a new OSD id, there is a second data migration that sucks data out of the part of the crush tree where the removed OSD was. This move is non-optimal: if the drive is size X, some data "moves" from the dead OSD to other N OSDs on the host (X/N to each), and the same amount of data (X) moves off the host (uniformly coming from all N+1 drives it used to live on). The same thing happens at the layer up: some data will move from the host to peer hosts in the rack, and the same amount will move out of the rack. This is a byproduct of CRUSH's hierarchical placement. If the lifecycle is to let drives fail, mark them out, and leave them there forever in the 'out' state, then the current behavior is fine, although over time you'll have lot sof dead+out osds that slow things down marginally. If the procedure is to replace dead OSDs and re-use the same OSD id, then this also works fine. Unfortunately the tools don't make this easy (that I know of). But if the procedure is to remove dead OSDs, or to remove dead OSDs and recreate new OSDs in their place, probably with a fresh OSD id, then you get this extra movement. In that case, I'm wondering if we should allow the mons to *instead* se the crush weight to 0 after the osd is down for too long. For that to work we need to set a flag so that if the OSD comes back up it'll restore the old crush weight (or more likely make the normal osd startup crush location update do so with the OSDs advertised capacity). Is it sensible? And/or, anybody have a good idea how the tools can/should be changed to make the osd replacement re-use the osd id? sage _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
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