Re: cls_rbd ops on rbd_id.$name objects in EC pool

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Hi Jason,

It's in writeback mode. 

Nick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ceph-devel-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ceph-devel-
> owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jason Dillaman
> Sent: 11 February 2016 18:40
> To: Nick Fisk <nick@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Sage Weil <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx>; Samuel Just <sjust@xxxxxxxxxx>; ceph-
> users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: cls_rbd ops on rbd_id.$name objects in EC pool
> 
> What's your cache mode?  In the master branch, I would expect that class
> method ops should force a promotion to the cache tier if the base tier is an
> EC pool [1].
> 
> [1] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/master/src/osd/OSD.cc#L8905
> 
> --
> 
> Jason Dillaman
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nick Fisk" <nick@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Sage Weil" <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Samuel Just" <sjust@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: "Jason Dillaman" <dillaman@xxxxxxxxxx>, ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:46:38 PM
> > Subject: RE: cls_rbd ops on rbd_id.$name objects in EC pool
> >
> > Hi Sage,
> >
> > Do you think this will get fixed in time for the Jewel release? It
> > still seems to happen in Master and is definitely related to the recency
> setting.
> > I'm guessing that the info command does some sort of read and then a
> write.
> > In the old behaviour the read would have always triggered a promotion?
> >
> >
> > nick@Ceph-Test:~$ ceph osd pool get cache1
> > min_read_recency_for_promote
> > min_read_recency_for_promote: 8
> > nick@Ceph-Test:~$ ceph osd pool get cache1
> > min_write_recency_for_promote
> > min_write_recency_for_promote: 8
> > nick@Ceph-Test:~$ rbd -p cache1 create Test99 --size=10G
> > nick@Ceph-Test:~$ rbd -p cache1 info Test99 rbd image 'Test99':
> >         size 10240 MB in 2560 objects
> >         order 22 (4096 kB objects)
> >         block_name_prefix: rbd_data.e8e734689a5e
> >         format: 2
> >         features: layering
> >         flags:
> > nick@Ceph-Test:~$ rados -p cache1 cache-flush rbd_id.Test99
> > nick@Ceph-Test:~$ rados -p cache1 cache-evict rbd_id.Test99
> > nick@Ceph-Test:~$ rbd -p cache1 info Test99
> > 2016-02-11 17:39:40.942030 7f0006eb3700 -1 librbd::image::OpenRequest:
> > failed to retrieve image id: (95) Operation not supported
> > 2016-02-11 17:39:40.942205 7f00066b2700 -1 librbd::ImageState: failed
> > to open
> > image: (95) Operation not supported
> > rbd: error opening image Test99: (95) Operation not supported
> > nick@Ceph-Test:~$ ceph osd pool set cache1
> > min_read_recency_for_promote 0 set pool 12
> > min_read_recency_for_promote to 0 nick@Ceph-Test:~$ rbd -p cache1
> info
> > Test99 rbd image 'Test99':
> >         size 10240 MB in 2560 objects
> >         order 22 (4096 kB objects)
> >         block_name_prefix: rbd_data.e8e734689a5e
> >         format: 2
> >         features: layering
> >         flags:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nick Fisk [mailto:nick@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 05 February 2016 19:58
> > > To: 'Sage Weil' <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx>; 'Samuel Just' <sjust@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: 'Jason Dillaman' <dillaman@xxxxxxxxxx>;
> > > ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: cls_rbd ops on rbd_id.$name objects in EC pool
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ceph-devel-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ceph-devel-
> > > > owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sage Weil
> > > > Sent: 05 February 2016 18:45
> > > > To: Samuel Just <sjust@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Cc: Jason Dillaman <dillaman@xxxxxxxxxx>; Nick Fisk
> > > > <nick@xxxxxxxxxx>; ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> > > > ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: cls_rbd ops on rbd_id.$name objects in EC pool
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 5 Feb 2016, Samuel Just wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jason Dillaman
> > > > > <dillaman@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > #1 and #2 are awkward for existing pools since we would need a
> > > > > > tool to inject dummy omap values within existing images.  Can
> > > > > > the cache tier force-promote it from the EC pool to the cache
> > > > > > when an unsupported op is encountered?  There is logic like
> > > > > > that in jewel/master for handling the proxied writes.
> > > >
> > > > That sounded familiar but I couldn't find this in the code or
> > > > history between infernalis and master.  And then I went back and
> > > > was unable to reproduce the a problem on either infernalis branch or
> v9.2.0.
> > > >
> > > > Nick, I was doing
> > > >  1013  ./rbd -p ec create foo --size 10
> > > >  1014  ./rbd -p ec info foo
> > > >  1015  ./rados -p ec-cache cache-flush rbd_id.foo
> > > >  1016  ./rados -p ec-cache cache-evict rbd_id.foo
> > > >  1017  ./rbd -p ec info foo
> > > >  1018  ./rados -p ec-cache ls -
> > > >
> > > > The rbd.get_id is successfully forcing a promotion.
> > > >
> > > > Which makes me think something else is going on... Nick, can you
> > > > try to reproduce this with a userspace librbd client?  'rbd info'
> > > > will do a few basic operations, but if that isn't problematic, try
> > > > 'rbd bench-write' or 'rbd export', which will do real IO?
> > >
> > > Hi Sage,
> > >
> > > Just tried again and I can confirm its definitely not working, but I
> > > think I may have stumbled on the reason why.
> > >
> > > First apologies for not mentioning it before, but I am still running
> > > that recency fix on Infernalis. Initially I thought this was a
> > > flushing issue as I just assumed those objects shouldn't get flushed
> > > out at all. But after reading your email where you said it forced
> > > the promotion, it struck me that the broken recency behaviour may
> > > have been masking this issue. With the fix it would only promote if
> > > the object was hot enough, which it probably in most cases wouldn't
> > > be. As a test I set my recency's down to 0 and tried the steps above
> > > again and this time it worked. Does this make sense?
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > >
> > > > sage
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Sam
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jason Dillaman
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> From: "Sage Weil" <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >> To: "Nick Fisk" <nick@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >> Cc: "Jason Dillaman" <dillaman@xxxxxxxxxx>,
> > > > > >> ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >> Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 10:42:17 AM
> > > > > >> Subject: cls_rbd ops on rbd_id.$name objects in EC pool
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016, Nick Fisk wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> > > From: ceph-users
> > > > > >> > > [mailto:ceph-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > >> > > On Behalf Of Jason Dillaman
> > > > > >> > > Sent: 27 January 2016 14:25
> > > > > >> > > To: Nick Fisk <nick@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >> > > Cc: ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re:  Possible Cache Tier Bug - Can
> > > > > >> > > someone confirm
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Are you running with an EC pool behind the cache tier? I
> > > > > >> > > know there was an issue with the first Infernalis release
> > > > > >> > > where unsupported ops were being proxied down to the EC
> > > > > >> > > pool, resulting in that same error.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Hi Jason, yes I am. 3x Replicated pool on top of an EC pool.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > It's probably something similar to what you mention. Either
> > > > > >> > the client should be able to access the RBD header object
> > > > > >> > on the base pool, or it should be flagged so that it can't be
> evicted.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I just confirmed that the rbd_id.$name object doesn't have
> > > > > >> any omap, so from rados's perspective, flushing and evicting
> > > > > >> it is fine.  But yeah, the cls_rbd ops aren't permitted in the EC pool.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> In master/jewel we have a cache-pin function that prevents an
> > > > > >> object from being flushed.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> A few options are:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 1) Have cls_rbd cache-pin it's objects.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2) Have cls_rbd put an omap key on the object to indirectly
> > > > > >> do the
> > > > same.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 3) Add a requires-cls type object flag that keeps hte object
> > > > > >> out of an EC pool *until* it eventually supports cls ops.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I'd lean toward 1 since it's simple and explicit, and when we
> > > > > >> eventually make classes work we can remove the cache-pin
> > > > > >> behavior
> > > > from cls_rbd.
> > > > > >> It's harder to fix in infernalis unless we also backport
> > > > > >> cache-pin/unpin ops, too, so maybe #2 would be a simple
> > > > > >> infernalis
> > > > workaround?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Jason?  Sam?
> > > > > >> sage
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > --
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Jason Dillaman
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> > > > From: "Nick Fisk" <nick@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >> > > > To: ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:46:53 AM
> > > > > >> > > > Subject:  Possible Cache Tier Bug - Can
> > > > > >> > > > someone confirm
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Hi All,
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > I think I have stumbled on a bug. I'm running
> > > > > >> > > > Infernalis (Kernel 4.4 on the
> > > > > >> > > > client) and it seems that if the RBD header object gets
> > > > > >> > > > evicted from the cache pool then you can no longer map it.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Steps to reproduce
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > rbd -p cache1 create Test --size=10G rbd - p cache1 map
> > > > > >> > > > Test
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > /dev/rbd1  <-Works!!
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > rbd unmap /dev/rbd1
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > rados -p cache1 cache-flush rbd_id.Test rados -p cache1
> > > > > >> > > > cache-evict rbd_id.Test rbd - p cache1 map Test
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > rbd: sysfs write failed
> > > > > >> > > > rbd: map failed: (95) Operation not supported
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > or with the rbd-nbd client
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > 2016-01-27 13:39:52.686770 7f9e54162b00 -1
> > > > > >> > > > asok(0x561837b88360)
> > > > > >> > > > AdminSocketConfigObs::init: failed:
> > > > AdminSocket::bind_and_listen:
> > > > > >> > > > failed to bind the UNIX domain socket to
> > > > > >> > > > '/var/run/ceph/ceph-client.admin.asok': (17) File
> > > > > >> > > > exists
> > > > > >> > > > 2016-01-27 13:39:52.703987 7f9e32ffd700 -1
> > > > librbd::image::OpenRequest:
> > > > > >> > > > failed to retrieve image id: (95) Operation not
> > > > > >> > > > supported
> > > > > >> > > > rbd-nbd: failed to map, status: (95) Operation not
> > > > > >> > > > supported
> > > > > >> > > > 2016-01-27 13:39:52.704138 7f9e327fc700 -1
> > > > > >> > > > librbd::ImageState: failed to open image: (95)
> > > > > >> > > > Operation not supported
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Nick
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
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