Re: why is there heavy read traffic during object delete?

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I looked at this system this morning, and the it actually finished what it was
doing. The erasure coded pool still contains all the data and the cache
pool has about a million zero sized objects:


GLOBAL:
    SIZE       AVAIL     RAW USED     %RAW USED     OBJECTS 
    15090G     9001G        6080G         40.29       2127k 
POOLS:
    NAME                ID     CATEGORY     USED       %USED     MAX AVAIL     OBJECTS     DIRTY     READ       WRITE 
    cache-data          21     -                 0         0         7962G     1162258     1057k      22969     3220k 
    cephfs-data         22     -             3964G     26.27         5308G     1014840      991k       891k     1143k 

Definitely seems like a bug since I removed all references to these from the filesystem
which created them.

I originally wrote 4.5 Tbytes of data into the file system, the erasure coded
pool is setup as 4+2, and the cache has a size limit of 1 Tbyte. Looks like not
all the data made it out of the cache tier before I removed content, it removed the
content which was only present in the cache tier and created a zero sized object
in the cache for all the content. The used capacity is somewhat consistent with
this.

I tried to look at the extended attributes on one of the zero size object with ceph-dencoder,
but it failed:

error: buffer::malformed_input: void object_info_t::decode(ceph::buffer::list::iterator&) unknown encoding version > 15

Same error on one of the objects in the erasure coded pool.

Looks like I am a little too bleeding edge for this, or the contents of the .ceph_ attribute are not an object_info_t



Steve

> On Feb 4, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Gregory Farnum <gfarnum@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Stephen Lord <Steve.Lord@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 6:51 PM, Gregory Farnum <gfarnum@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I presume we're doing reads in order to gather some object metadata
>>> from the cephfs-data pool; and the (small) newly-created objects in
>>> cache-data are definitely whiteout objects indicating the object no
>>> longer exists logically.
>>> 
>>> What kinds of reads are you actually seeing? Does it appear to be
>>> transferring data, or merely doing a bunch of seeks? I thought we were
>>> trying to avoid doing reads-to-delete, but perhaps the way we're
>>> handling snapshots or something is invoking behavior that isn't
>>> amicable to a full-FS delete.
>>> 
>>> I presume you're trying to characterize the system's behavior, but of
>>> course if you just want to empty it out entirely you're better off
>>> deleting the pools and the CephFS instance entirely and then starting
>>> it over again from scratch.
>>> -Greg
>> 
>> I believe it is reading all the data, just from the volume of traffic and
>> the cpu load on the OSDs maybe suggests it is doing more than
>> just that.
>> 
>> iostat is showing a lot of data moving, I am seeing about the same volume
>> of read and write activity here. Because the OSDs underneath both pools
>> are the same ones, I know that’s not exactly optimal, it is hard to tell what
>> which pool is responsible for which I/O. Large reads and small writes suggest
>> it is reading up all the data from the objects,  the write traffic is I presume all
>> journal activity relating to deleting objects and creating the empty ones.
>> 
>> The 9:1 ratio between things being deleted and created seems odd though.
>> 
>> A previous version of this exercise with just a regular replicated data pool
>> did not read anything, just a lot of write activity and eventually the content
>> disappeared. So definitely related to the pool configuration here and probably
>> not to the filesystem layer.
> 
> Sam, does this make any sense to you in terms of how RADOS handles deletes?
> -Greg


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