Re: Using straw2 crush also with Hammer

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> On 11 Nov 2015, at 22:49, David Clarke <davidc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On 12/11/15 09:37, Gregory Farnum wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015, Wido den Hollander <wido@xxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:wido@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> 
>>    On 11/10/2015 09:49 PM, Vickey Singh wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Wido den Hollander <wido@xxxxxxxx
>>    <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 11/09/2015 05:27 PM, Vickey Singh wrote:
>>>>> Hello Ceph Geeks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Need your comments with my understanding on straw2.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   - Is Straw2 better than straw ?
>>>> 
>>>> It is not persé better then straw(1).
>>>> 
>>>> straw2 distributes data better when not all OSDs are equally
>>>> sized/weighted.
>>>> 
>>>>>   - Is it straw2 recommended  for production usage ?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm using it in multiple clusters and it works fine.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes i followed your update on twitter  :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I have a production Ceph Firefly cluster , that i am going to
>>    upgrade to
>>>>> Ceph hammer pretty soon. Should i use straw2 for all my ceph pools ?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I would upgrade to Hammer first and make sure that ALL clients
>>    are updated.
>>>> 
>>>> In case you are using KVM/Qemu, you will have to stop those processes
>>>> first and start them again before they are using the new code.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot for this pointer, i didn't knew this. So restarting
>>    KVM / QEMU
>>> process effect running VMs ? ( some downtime )
>>> 
>> 
>>    Yes. You can also (live) migrate to another host since that will spawn
>>    Qemu with fresh code on the other host.
>> 
>>    But you have to make sure all running/connected clients support straw2
>>    before you enable straw2.
>> 
>> 
>> I believe straw2 only requires monitor support -- unlike the tuna led
>> involved in executing CRUSH, straw2 is just about how the OSD/bucket
>> weights get converted into a sort of "internal" straw weight. That's
>> done on the monitors and encoded into the maps.
>> 
>> Right?
>> -Greg
> 
> I don't believe that's the case.  If you convert a CRUSH map to use
> straw2 then any connected QEMU/librbd clients without straw2 support
> will die with something like:
> 
> terminate called after throwing an instance of
> 'ceph::buffer::malformed_input'
>  what():  buffer::malformed_input: unsupported bucket algorithm: 5
> 
> Where:
> 
> ceph/src/crush/crush.h:CRUSH_BUCKET_STRAW2 = 5,
> 

Thanks David / Wido for pointing this out.

So does it means , before changing crush with Straw2 , one should make sure their clients ( openstack or anything else ) supports straw2 ??
Also does straw2 support comes comes within Kernel OR by installing Ceph Hammer / Later binaries ?
Does Centos 7.1 ( 3.10 ) supports straw2 ?



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