Re: why are there "degraded" PGs when adding OSDs?

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Hi Sam,
	I'll need help getting the osdmap and pg dump prior to addition.
	I can remove the OSDs and add again if the osdmap (etc.) is not logged 
somewhere.

Chad.

> Hmm, that's odd.  Can you attach the osdmap and ceph pg dump prior to the
> addition (with all pgs active+clean), then the osdmap and ceph pg dump
> afterwards? -Sam
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chad William Seys" <cwseys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Samuel Just" <sjust@xxxxxxxxxx>, "ceph-users" <ceph-users@xxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:57:23 PM
> Subject: Re:  why are there "degraded" PGs when adding OSDs?
> 
> Hi Sam,
> 
> > The pg might also be degraded right after a map change which changes the
> > up/acting sets since the few objects updated right before the map change
> > might be new on some replicas and old on the other replicas.  While in
> > that
> > state, those specific objects are degraded, and the pg would report
> > degraded until they are recovered (which would happen asap, prior to
> > backfilling the new replica). -Sam
> 
> That sounds like only a few PGs should be degraded.  I instead have about
> 45% (and higher earlier).
> 
> # ceph -s
>     cluster 7797e50e-f4b3-42f6-8454-2e2b19fa41d6
>      health HEALTH_WARN
>             2081 pgs backfill
>             6745 pgs degraded
>             17 pgs recovering
>             6728 pgs recovery_wait
>             6745 pgs stuck degraded
>             8826 pgs stuck unclean
>             recovery 2530124/5557452 objects degraded (45.527%)
>             recovery 33594/5557452 objects misplaced (0.604%)
>      monmap e5: 3 mons at
> {mon01=128.104.164.197:6789/0,mon02=128.104.164.198:6789/0,mon03=10.128.198.
> 51:6789/0} election epoch 16458, quorum 0,1,2 mon03,mon01,mon02
>      mdsmap e3032: 1/1/1 up {0=mds01.hep.wisc.edu=up:active}
>      osdmap e149761: 27 osds: 27 up, 27 in; 2083 remapped pgs
>       pgmap v13464928: 18432 pgs, 9 pools, 5401 GB data, 1364 kobjects
>             11122 GB used, 11786 GB / 22908 GB avail
>             2530124/5557452 objects degraded (45.527%)
>             33594/5557452 objects misplaced (0.604%)
>                 9606 active+clean
>                 6726 active+recovery_wait+degraded
>                 2081 active+remapped+wait_backfill
>                   17 active+recovering+degraded
>                    2 active+recovery_wait+degraded+remapped
> recovery io 24861 kB/s, 6 objects/s
> 
> Chad.
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chad William Seys" <cwseys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "ceph-users" <ceph-users@xxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:27:26 PM
> > Subject:  why are there "degraded" PGs when adding OSDs?
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I recently added some OSDs to the Ceph cluster (0.94.2). I noticed that
> > 'ceph -s' reported both misplaced AND degraded PGs.
> > 
> > Why should any PGs become degraded?  Seems as though Ceph should only be
> > reporting misplaced PGs?
> > 
> > From the Giant release notes:
> > Degraded vs misplaced: the Ceph health reports from ‘ceph -s’ and related
> > commands now make a distinction between data that is degraded (there are
> > fewer than the desired number of copies) and data that is misplaced
> > (stored
> > in the wrong location in the cluster). The distinction is important
> > because
> > the latter does not compromise data safety.
> > 
> > Does Ceph delete some replicas of the PGs (leading to degradation) before
> > re- replicating on the new OSD?
> > 
> > This does not seem to be the safest algorithm.
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