Re: xattrs vs. omap with radosgw

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On 06/16/2015 03:48 PM, GuangYang wrote:
Thanks Sage for the quick response.

It is on Firefly v0.80.4.

While trying to put with *rados* directly, the xattrs can be inline. The problem comes to light when using radosgw, since we have a bunch of metadata to keep via xattrs, including:
    rgw.idtag  : 15 bytes
    rgw.manifest :  381 bytes

Ah, that manifest will push us over the limit afaik resulting in every inode getting a new extent.

    rgw.acl : 121 bytes
    rgw.etag : 33 bytes

Given the background, it looks like the problem is that the rgw.manifest is too large so that XFS make it extents. If I understand correctly, if we port the change to Firefly, we should be able to inline the inode since the accumulated size is still less than 2K (please correct me if I am wrong here).

I think you are correct so long as the patch breaks that manifest down into 254 byte or smaller chunks.


Thanks,
Guang


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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:43:08 -0700
From: sage@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To: yguang11@xxxxxxxxxxx
CC: ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: xattrs vs. omap with radosgw

On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, GuangYang wrote:
Hi Cephers,
While looking at disk utilization on OSD, I noticed the disk was constantly busy with large number of small writes, further investigation showed that, as radosgw uses xattrs to store metadata (e.g. etag, content-type, etc.), which made the xattrs get from local to extents, which incurred extra I/O.

I would like to check if anybody has experience with offloading the metadata to omap:
1> Offload everything to omap? If this is the case, should we make the inode size as 512 (instead of 2k)?
2> Partial offload the metadata to omap, e.g. only offloading the rgw specified metadata to omap.

Any sharing is deeply appreciated. Thanks!

Hi Guang,

Is this hammer or firefly?

With hammer the size of object_info_t crossed the 255 byte boundary, which
is the max xattr value that XFS can inline. We've since merged something
that stripes over several small xattrs so that we can keep things inline,
but it hasn't been backported to hammer yet. See
c6cdb4081e366f471b372102905a1192910ab2da. Perhaps this is what you're
seeing?

I think we're still better off with larger XFS inodes and inline xattrs if
it means we avoid leveldb at all for most objects.

sage
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