Re: normalizing radosgw

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On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Robert LeBlanc wrote:
> I guess you would have to specify the cluster name in /etc/ceph/ceph.conf?
> That would be my only concern.

ceph.conf is $cluster.conf (default cluster name is 'ceph').

Unfortunately under systemd it's not possible to parameterize daemons with 
two variables (cluster and id) so the cluster is fixed per-host in 
/etc/defaults/ceph (or something like that).  At least that's how the 
current units work..

sage

> 
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Sage Weil <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>       On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Robert LeBlanc wrote:
>       > I'm a big fan of /etc/*.d/ configs. Basically if the package
>       maintained
>       > /etc/ceph.conf includes all files in /etc/ceph.d/ then I can
>       break up the
>       > files however I'd like (mon, ods, mds, client, one per daemon,
>       etc). Then
>       > when upgrading, I don't have to worry about the new packages
>       trying to
>       > overwrite my conf file. If you have the include order be
>       /var/lib/ceph/,
>       > /etc/ceph.conf, /etc/ceph.d/ then package maintainers can put
>       in things so
>       > that it "just works" and can be easily overridden with
>       /etc/ceph.d/.
>       > Just my $0.02.
> 
>       How about /etc/ceph/ceph.conf.d/* ?  In reality it's
>       /etc/ceph/$cluster.conf.d/*
> 
>       sage
> 
> 
>       >
>       > On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Sage Weil <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx>
>       wrote:
>       >       Several things are different/annoying with radosgw than
>       with
>       >       other Ceph
>       >       daemons:
>       >
>       >       - binary/package are named 'radosgw' instead of
>       'ceph-rgw'.
>       >
>       >       This is cosmetic, but it also makes it fit less well
>       into the
>       >       new /var/lib/ceph/* view of things.
>       >
>       >       - default log location is
>       /var/log/radosgw/$cluster-$name.log
>       >       instead of
>       >       /var/lib/ceph/$cluster-$rgw.$name.log (or similar).
>       >
>       >       - rgw_data default is /var/lib/ceph/radosgw instead of
>       >       /var/lib/ceph/rgw
>       >
>       >       (not sure if 3 letters for consistency is better?)
>       >
>       >       - rgw usually authenticates as a client.something user,
>       which
>       >       means if you
>       >       do use more standard rgw log names, then you get
>       >       /var/log/ceph/client.something.$pid.$uniqueid.log. 
>       There is a
>       >       loose
>       >       convention that 'something' is 'rgw.hostname' (i.e.,
>       >       client.rgw.hostname).
>       >
>       >       - radosgw has it's own separate sysvinit script that
>       enumerates
>       >       daemons
>       >       from /etc/ceph/ceph.conf sections that start with
>       >       client.radosgw.*
>       >
>       >       - radosgw upstart script is called radosgw (not
>       ceph-rgw) and
>       >       enumerates
>       >       daemons from /var/lib/ceph/radosgw/*
>       >
>       >       (totally different than sysvinit!)
>       >
>       >       - radosgw instances usually need some stuff in ceph.conf
>       to make
>       >       them
>       >       behave properly, which means they need a section in the
>       shared
>       >       /etc/ceph/ceph.conf.  more work for admins or config
>       management
>       >       systems.
>       >
>       >       - on rpm-based systems we have a separate sysvinit
>       script that
>       >       is
>       >       slightly different (mostly because the username is
>       different,
>       >       apache
>       >       instead of www-data).
>       >
>       >       ---
>       >
>       >       There is enough wrong here and little enough convention
>       that my
>       >       proposal is to essentially start fresh:
>       >
>       >       - rename package ceph-rgw.  obsoletes/replaces radosgw.
>       >
>       >       - merge rgw start/stop into standard sysvinit script
>       (just
>       >       another
>       >       daemon type?).
>       >
>       >       - normalize upstart start/stop (just rename radosgw-* to
>       >       ceph-rgw-*,
>       >       basically).
>       >
>       >       - make upstart use /var/lib/ceph/rgw instead of
>       >       /var/lib/ceph/radosgw (do
>       >       this automagically on upgrade?  that will at least avoid
>       the
>       >       upgrade pain
>       >       for ubuntu users)
>       >
>       >       - create new systemd start/stop that are correct the
>       first time
>       >       around.
>       >
>       >       - move log file to /var/log/ceph
>       >
>       >
>       >       The part I'm not sure about is how to handle config.  I
>       would
>       >       really like
>       >       the ability to put per-daemon config stuff in
>       >       /var/lib/ceph/rgw/foo/conf
>       >       or config, but there is no 'include file' function in
>       our
>       >       ini-file parser
>       >       (or in other typical ini-file implementations that i can
>       find)
>       >       and I don't
>       >       like the idea the per-daemon config would completely
>       supplant
>       >       the
>       >       /etc/ceph/ one.
>       >
>       >       Basically, I'd like to get to a point where we can
>       >       programatically deploy
>       >       an rgw without any wonky code that edits the ceph.conf. 
>       Perhaps
>       >       the way
>       >       to accomplish this is to have the admin create a generic
>       >       client.rgw user
>       >       and generic [client.rgw] section in the global
>       ceph.conf?
>       >
>       >       If there were an include file function, we could make
>       the
>       >       per-daemon
>       >       config file something like
>       >
>       >        include /etc/ceph/$cluster.conf
>       >        [client.rgw.hostname]
>       >        rgw foo = bar
>       >        rgw baz = blip
>       >
>       >       or whatever.
>       >
>       >       Thoughts?  Suggestions?
>       >
>       >       sage
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