Questions regarding Crush Map

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According to http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/crush-map/, you
should be able to construct a clever use of 'step take' and 'step choose'
rules in your CRUSH map to force one copy to a particular bucket and allow
the other two copies to be chosen elsewhere. I was looking for a way to
have some locality like one copy in the current rack, one copy in the
current row and a third copy somewhere else in the data center. I don't
think there is an easy way to figure that out since the clients don't map
to the CRUSH map.


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jakes John <jakesjohn12345 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Loic.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Loic Dachary <loic at dachary.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> On 02/09/2014 05:29, Jakes John wrote:> Hi,
>> >    I have some general questions regarding the crush map. It would be
>> helpful if someone can help me out by clarifying them.
>> >
>> > 1.  I saw that a bucket 'host' is always created for the crush maps
>> which are automatically generated by ceph. If I am manually creating
>> crushmap,  do I need to always add a bucket called ' host' ? As I was
>> looking through the source code, I didn't see any need for this. If not
>> necessary, can osd's of the same host be split into mulitple buckets?
>> >
>> > eg : Say host 1 has four osd's- osd.0,osd.1,osd.2, osd.3
>> >                                 host 2 has four osd's-
>> osd.4,osd.5,osd.6,osd.7
>> >
>> > and create two buckets -
>> >
>>
> > HostGroup bucket1- {osd.0, osd.1,osd.4,osd.5}
>> > HostGroup bucket2-{osd.2,osd.3,osd.6,osd.7} where HostGroup is new
>> bucket type instead of the default 'host' type.
>> >
>> >
>> > Is this configuration possible or invalid? If this is possible, I can
>> group SSD's of all hosts into 1 bucket and HDD's into other.
>>
>> What you describe seem possible but I'm not sure what problem you are
>> trying to solve. The crush map described at
>>
>>
>> http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/crush-map/#placing-different-pools-on-different-osds
>>
>> is not what you want ?
>>
>
> No. I have seen this before. In the example, each of the hosts had either
> only SSD's or only HDD's. In my example, host1 has two ssd's and two hdd's.
>  Similar is the case for host2. So, If I need to have a bucket for SSD's
> only, I need to create a bucket as stated above.
>
> HostGroup bucket1- {osd.0, osd.1,osd.4,osd.5}
>
> Is this possible?
>
>>
>> > 2. I have read in Ceph docs that same osd is not advised to be part of
>> two buckets(two pools).
>>
>> A single OSD should be in a single bucket in the crush map indeed. But it
>> is common for two OSD to be part of multiple pools. The pools are
>> associated with a ruleset and each ruleset can choose in the same set of
>> OSDs.
>>
>> > Is there any reason for it? But,I couldn't find this limitation in the
>> source code.
>>
>> There is no limitation in the code but the crush function has been tested
>> and used with a hierarchy where leaf nodes are not part of more than one
>> bucket.
>>
>>
>
>
>> Cheers
>>
>> > eg:osd.0 is in bucket1 and bucket2.
>> >
>> > Is this configuration possible or invalid? If this is possible, I have
>> the flexibility to have group data which are written to different pools.
>>
>
> So, it is possible right?. I have plans to have third replica to stay in a
> particular rack for all pools.( common to all pools)
>
>
>> >
>> > 3. Is it possible to exclude or include a particular osd/host/rack in
>> the crush mapping?.
>> >
>> > eg: I need to have third replica always in rack3 (a specified
>> row/rack/host based on requirements) . First two can be chosen randomly
>> >
>> > If possible, how can I configure it?
>> >
>>
>
>  Any ideas for 3,4,5 ?
>
>>  >
>> > 4. It is said that osd weights must be configured based on the storage.
>> Say if I have SSD of 512 GB and HDD of 1 TB and if I configure .5 and 1
>> respectively, am I treating both SSD and HDD equally? How do I prioritize
>> SSD over HDD?
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>> > 5. Continuing from 4), If i have mix of SSD's and HDD's in the  same
>> host, what are the best ways possible to utilize the SSD capabilities in
>> the ceph cluster?
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>> > Looking forward to your help,
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>>
>> --
>> Lo?c Dachary, Artisan Logiciel Libre
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