Fresh Firefly install degraded without modified default tunables

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Hi Greg,

Good question: I started with a single node test and had just left the setting in across larger configs as in earlier versions (e.g. Emperor) it didn't seem to matter. I also had the same thought that it could be causing an issue with the new default tunables in Firefly and did try removing for multi-host (all things the same except for omitting "osd crush chooseleaf type = 0" in ceph.conf). However, I observed the same behavior in both cases. 

Thanks,
Ripal

On Aug 26, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Gregory Farnum <greg at inktank.com> wrote:

> Hmm, that all looks basically fine. But why did you decide not to
> segregate OSDs across hosts (according to your CRUSH rules)? I think
> maybe it's the interaction of your map, setting choose_local_tries to
> 0, and trying to go straight to the OSDs instead of choosing hosts.
> But I'm not super familiar with how the tunables would act under these
> exact conditions.
> -Greg
> Software Engineer #42 @ http://inktank.com | http://ceph.com
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Ripal Nathuji <ripal at nathuji.com> wrote:
>> Hi Greg,
>> 
>> Thanks for helping to take a look. Please find your requested outputs below.
>> 
>> ceph osd tree:
>> 
>> # id weight type name up/down reweight
>> -1 0 root default
>> -2 0 host osd1
>> 0 0 osd.0 up 1
>> 4 0 osd.4 up 1
>> 8 0 osd.8 up 1
>> 11 0 osd.11 up 1
>> -3 0 host osd0
>> 1 0 osd.1 up 1
>> 3 0 osd.3 up 1
>> 6 0 osd.6 up 1
>> 9 0 osd.9 up 1
>> -4 0 host osd2
>> 2 0 osd.2 up 1
>> 5 0 osd.5 up 1
>> 7 0 osd.7 up 1
>> 10 0 osd.10 up 1
>> 
>> 
>> ceph -s:
>> 
>>    cluster 4a158d27-f750-41d5-9e7f-26ce4c9d2d45
>>     health HEALTH_WARN 832 pgs degraded; 832 pgs stuck unclean; recovery
>> 43/86 objects degraded (50.000%)
>>     monmap e1: 1 mons at {ceph-mon0=192.168.2.10:6789/0}, election epoch 2,
>> quorum 0 ceph-mon0
>>     osdmap e34: 12 osds: 12 up, 12 in
>>      pgmap v61: 832 pgs, 8 pools, 840 bytes data, 43 objects
>>            403 MB used, 10343 MB / 10747 MB avail
>>            43/86 objects degraded (50.000%)
>>                 832 active+degraded
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ripal
>> 
>> On Aug 25, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Gregory Farnum <greg at inktank.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What's the output of "ceph osd tree"? And the full output of "ceph -s"?
>> -Greg
>> Software Engineer #42 @ http://inktank.com | http://ceph.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Ripal Nathuji <ripal at nathuji.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I've come across an issue which I found a "fix" for, but I'm not sure
>> whether it's correct or if there is some other misconfiguration on my end
>> and this is merely a symptom. I'd appreciate any insights anyone could
>> provide based on the information below, and happy to provide more details as
>> necessary.
>> 
>> Summary: A fresh install of Ceph 0.80.5 comes up with all pgs marked as
>> active+degraded. This reproduces on 12.04 as well as CentOS 7 with a varying
>> number of OSD hosts (1, 2, 3), where each OSD host has four storage drives.
>> The configuration file defines a default replica size of 2, and allows leafs
>> of type 0. Specific snippet:
>> 
>> [global]
>> ...
>> osd pool default size = 2
>> osd crush chooseleaf type = 0
>> 
>> 
>> I verified the crush rules were as expected:
>> 
>> "rules": [
>>       { "rule_id": 0,
>>         "rule_name": "replicated_ruleset",
>>         "ruleset": 0,
>>         "type": 1,
>>         "min_size": 1,
>>         "max_size": 10,
>>         "steps": [
>>               { "op": "take",
>>                 "item": -1,
>>                 "item_name": "default"},
>>               { "op": "choose_firstn",
>>                 "num": 0,
>>                 "type": "osd"},
>>               { "op": "emit"}]}],
>> 
>> 
>> Inspecting the pg dump I observed that all pgs had a single osd in the
>> up/acting sets. That seemed to explain why the pgs were degraded, but it was
>> unclear to me why a second OSD wasn't in the set. After trying a variety of
>> things, I noticed that there was a difference between Emperor (which works
>> fine in these configurations) and Firefly with the default tunables, where
>> Firefly comes up with the bobtail profile. The setting
>> choose_local_fallback_tries is 0 in this profile while it used to default to
>> 5 on Emperor. Sure enough, if I modify my crush map and set the parameter to
>> a non-zero value, the cluster remaps and goes healthy with all pgs
>> active+clean.
>> 
>> The documentation states the optimal value of choose_local_fallback_tries is
>> 0 for FF, so I'd like to get a better understanding of this parameter and
>> why modifying the default value moves the pgs to a clean state in my
>> scenarios.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ripal
>> 
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