Re: Expanding ceph cluster by adding more OSDs

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I had those same questions, I think the answer I got was that it was better to have too few pg's than to have overloaded osd's.  So add osd's then add pg's.  I don't know the best increments to grow in, probably depends largely on the hardware in your osd's.

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> On Oct 9, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Guang <yguang11@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mike. I get your point.
> 
> There are still a few things confusing me:
>  1) We expand Ceph cluster by adding more OSDs, which will trigger re-balance PGs across the old & new OSDs, and likely it will break the optimized PG numbers for the cluster.
>   2) We can add more PGs which will trigger re-balance objects across old & new PGs.
> 
> So:
>  1) What is the recommended way to expand the cluster by adding OSDs (and potentially adding PGs), should we do them at the same time?
>  2) What is the recommended way to scale a cluster from like 1PB to 2PB, should we scale it to like 1.1PB to 1.2PB or move to 2PB directly?
> 
> Thanks,
> Guang
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Michael Lowe wrote:
>> 
>> There used to be, can't find it right now.  Something like 'ceph osd set pg_num <num>' then 'ceph osd set pgp_num <num>' to actually move your data into the new pg's.  I successfully did it several months ago, when bobtail was current.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 10:30 PM, Guang <yguang11@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Mike.
>>> 
>>> Is there any documentation for that?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Guang
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Mike Lowe wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You can add PGs,  the process is called splitting.  I don't think PG merging, the reduction in the number of PGs, is ready yet.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 8, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Guang <yguang11@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi ceph-users,
>>>>> Ceph recommends the PGs number of a pool is (100 * OSDs) / Replicas, per my understanding, the number of PGs for a pool should be fixed even we scale out / in the cluster by adding / removing OSDs, does that mean if we double the OSD numbers, the PG number for a pool is not optimal any more and there is no chance to correct it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Guang
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