Re: [list admin] - membership disabled due to bounces

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Do I understand you to mean, James, that you bounce spam messages back to the sender, even if the sender is a listserv? That seems like a really bad idea, punishing the innocent at best, and causing problems like this at worst.

IMO the best spam strategy is to drop it as early as possible at the receiver (ideally while the SMTP connection is still open, before any queueing).

We can look at making spam rejection better for ceph-users, but I wanted to understand whether you and Alex are actually bouncing things back to ceph-users, and if so, ask about why.

On 08/11/2013 03:26 AM, James Harper wrote:
This list actually does get a bit of spam, unlike most lists I'm subscribed to. I'm surprised more reputation filters haven't blocked it. Rejecting spam is the only right way to do it (junk mail folders are dumb), but obviously the ceph-users list is taking the bounces as indicating a problem with your account.

Probably the only thing to do is to white list the address and put up with the spam.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: ceph-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ceph-users-
bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Bligh
Sent: Sunday, 11 August 2013 6:43 PM
To: ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:  [list admin] - membership disabled due to bounces

This is the third of these I've got in a month. I get them on no
other mailing lists and I'm on quite a lot of lists. I have an
outsourced spam thing which is generally well behaved but will
reject spam. Any ideas why this might be?

Alex

Begin forwarded message:

From: ceph-users-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 11 August 2013 08:25:30 GMT+01:00
To: alex@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: confirm [REDACTED]

Your membership in the mailing list ceph-users has been disabled due
to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
11-Aug-2013.  You will not get any more messages from this list until
you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 3 more reminders like
this before your membership in the list is deleted.

To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message
(leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at

    http://lists.ceph.com/confirm.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com/[REDACTED]


You can also visit your membership page at

    http://lists.ceph.com/options.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com/[REDACTED]


On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such
as your email address and whether you get digests or not.  As a
reminder, your membership password is

    [REDACTED]

If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner
at

    ceph-users-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



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