Re: Should the disk write cache be disabled?

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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Da Chun <ngugc@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Do you mean the "write barrier"?
> So all ceph disk partitions are mounted with "barrier=1"?

Yes. Ceph requires very strong safety semantics in order to maintain
consistency, and it's very careful to do so in a performant fashion
(instead of just syncing all over the place), but if the consistency
mechanisms in the kernel are broken/disabled/whatever then it's all
for naught.
-Greg
Software Engineer #42 @ http://inktank.com | http://ceph.com

>
> ------------------ Original ------------------
> From:  "Gregory Farnum"<greg@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
> Date:  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 00:29 AM
> To:  "Da Chun"<ngugc@xxxxxx>;
> Cc:  "ceph-users"<ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> Subject:  Re:  Should the disk write cache be disabled?
>
> Just old kernels, as they didn't correctly provide all the barriers
> and other ordering constraints necessary for the write cache to be
> used safely.
> -Greg
> Software Engineer #42 @ http://inktank.com | http://ceph.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Da Chun <ngugc@xxxxxx> wrote:
>> In this doc,
>>
>> http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/configuration/filesystem-recommendations/
>>
>> It says,
>>
>> Ceph aims for data safety, which means that when the Ceph Client receives
>> notice that data was written to a storage drive, that data was actually
>> written to the storage drive. For old kernels (<2.6.33), disable the write
>> cache if the journal is on a raw drive. Newer kernels should work fine.
>>
>> Use hdparm to disable write caching on the hard disk:
>>
>> sudo hdparm -W 0 /dev/hda
>>
>> Does it mean the disk write cache should be always disabled for ceph, or
>> just when using the old kernel (<2.6.33)?
>>
>> Thanks for your time!
>>
>>
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