Re: SCSI inquiry interface for RBD devices

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> On Aug 12, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 1:38 AM, Kamble, Nitin A
> <Nitin.Kamble@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> SCSI block devices has SG_IO IOCTL interface by which applications can identify the device uniquely. This helps applications identify the device uniquely without relying on the device file names or any other mechanisms.
>> 
>> For more details l ook at the manpage of sg_inq commnad. https://manned.org/sg_inq
>> 
>> Some of the non SCSI devices also support this SG_IO interface for inquiry. Examples include SATA, NVME, Virtual Disks.
>> 
>> It is desired to identify every RBD uniquely just from the device file. It will help in using RBD devices as drop in replacement for SCSI/SATA devices. Currently the RBD code in ceph-client does not support the SG_IO ioctl interface for inquiry to identify the device uniquely. Has adding the SG_IO ioctl interface to the RBD devices ever been considered before?
> 
> No, SG_IO hasn't come up before, and we don't really have a good
> established way of doing that at all - if we had one, wiring up SG_IO
> (assuming no objections from SCSI maintainers) wouldn't be a problem.
> One approach is to concatenate a cluster-wide UUID with pool, image and
> snapshot IDs, but the problem there is that images can be moved between
> pools and clusters and v1 images don't have an image ID.

I am surprised to know that images can be moved across pools and clusters. The feature request for moving images across pools was rejected here: http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/2305 . Also the rbd man page says rbd rename across pools is not supported. (http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/man/8/rbd/)

Is it a currently available feature?

> 
> Mike recently ran into the need to uniquely identify RBD devices for
> his multipath-tools work and I think he ended up using some variant of
> the above approach, grabbing IDs from /sys/bus/rbd.  (The cluster_uuid
> and snap_id attributes currently don't exist, but will be added in the
> next kernel release.)
> 
> It would make this a lot easier if we started generating a unique UUID
> for the image and each snapshot at image/snapshot creation time.  Jason?
> 

Image UUID seems like the right direction.
If that UUID needs to be really unique, then image copy also need to create a new UUID.

Thanks,
Nitin


> Thanks,
> 
>                Ilya

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