Hi Alex, On 17/08/2015 22:19, Alex Elsayed wrote: > Loic Dachary wrote: > >> Hi Joao, > <snipping quite a bit> > >> It is quite impossible for us (non lawyers) to draw the line that >> separates paranoïa and common sense. Reason why most discussions on these >> topics turn short. I cannot dismiss the scenario you describe and I'm >> quite sure asking a lawyer would not clarify anything. Mostly because >> whatever the question, the lawyer answer will always be : "maybe" and >> never "yes" or "no" ;-) That reminds me of an amusing talk in the FOSDEM legal track a few years back, specifically on that topic :-) <snip>--<snip> >> So, how can one make an opinion on a topic (s)he does not fully understand >> ? I chose to decide based on facts I have and favor what give us (the Ceph >> project community) more flexibility. I don't think anyone has any fact >> regarding legal troubles related to contributor using aliases. And since >> we don't verify contributor backgrounds anyway, acknowledging that we >> already accept aliases makes sense to me. > > This is where I see a subtle, but meaningful distinction: Accepting from > aliases *which have submitted a DCO* means that the person behind the alias, > even if we don't know their name, has bound themselves to a standard ov > behavior. > > Accepting from arbitrary aliases does _not_ carry that meaning. Yes. Although we don't do formal background checks, we make sure that each commit is Signed-off-by: the author as required by https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/master/SubmittingPatches#L22 which is linked from the https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.rst document that shows whenever someone submits a pull request. I also believe this is an important distinction and I would feel uncomfortable if Ceph accepted contributions (aliases or not) that are not Signed-off one way or the other. Cheers > >> The value of this thread is more about how we collectively form a >> consensus on a topic that has legal implications than the question of >> accepting aliases or not. As Greg mentioned, all developers/organizations >> holding a significant part of the Ceph copyright know each other. Whatever >> is decided regarding aliases, it is not going to have any actual legal >> impact. But it would be great if we can somehow come up with a consensus. >> Ultimately the decision is not for us to make anyway: we're not a >> democracy. But it's not because a community has no power to decide that it >> must not have an opinion ;-) > > Entirely agreed. > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > -- Loïc Dachary, Artisan Logiciel Libre
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