No, not really: 30239 www-data 20 0 751m 7556 2036 S 10 0.4 0:03.67 apache2 1955 root 20 0 2048m 10m 4352 S 6 0.5 2:14.54 radosgw 10% cpu usage apache, load was 0.4. Also less than 15% usage via vcenter performance graph. We are setting up a physical server right now at this moment, because we thought also about missing instruction sets of the cpu. Another perf question: As I said we can write about 170mb/s with the rados bench: rados bench -p test 100 write: Bandwidth (MB/sec): 171.744. With rbd or rgw (w/o https) we get less than 40mb/s: (time rados -p connect put 600mb.iso 600mb.iso real 0m15.846s user 0m0.640s sys 0m0.836s) I think you can also close the bug! Because of https I have to type the protocol, and then I get the message "bad protocol"( like here: http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/3968 ) , so not possible to bench at the moment with rest-bench. Ive configured the admin socket, but I don't know who to "read" the output of perfcounters in a sensefull way... Thank you very much so far. Philipp -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Mark Nelson [mailto:mark.nelson@xxxxxxxxxxx] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Juni 2013 16:53 An: Jäger, Philipp Cc: ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Betreff: Re: AW: radosrgw performance problems Interesting. Was Apache using excessive CPU? Do your processors and libraries support AES-NI? Seems strange that at this level that would be the limiting factor, but I've seen stranger things... Glad you figured it out! Mark On 06/12/2013 05:52 AM, Jäger, Philipp wrote: > Hello, > > identified the problem. > > When I deactivate SSL in Apache Config, and connect via http, I get > the 40MB/s. (with ssl 8mb/s) Have you experience with SSL? Is this normal? > > Thanks > > Regards > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Jäger, Philipp > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Juni 2013 10:22 > An: 'Mark Nelson' > Cc: ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Betreff: AW: radosrgw performance problems > > Hello, > > i've added my answers below. > > Thanks > > Regards > > Philipp > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Mark Nelson [mailto:mark.nelson@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2013 16:38 > An: Jäger, Philipp > Cc: ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Betreff: Re: radosrgw performance problems > > On 06/11/2013 08:27 AM, Jäger, Philipp wrote: >> Hello, >> >> we have a performance problem with radosrgw. >> Only 8mb/s-9 per upload, also tested with s3cmd on the rgw itself. >> (2 uploads at the same time: combined 15mb/s, 3 uploads at the same >> time: comb. 21mb/s) But when putting a file via rados rbd , we get 40mb/s upload, so no network or other problem in general. > > One thing to check is to make sure that the rgw pool you are writing to has enough placement groups for your cluster. The default may be extremely low. > > [Philipp] We don't use standard pool, new pool with 1500pg, same > problem. (30 osds) > >> >> Same speed with the inktank apache/fastcgi and the original one. >> Hardware also fast enough. We use Ubuntu 12.04 lts, ceph 0.61.2 >> >> So have you any idea why the rgw is so slow? How can we identify where the problem is? > > RBD is pretty streamlined so you can get good performance with it. On my test setup I'm seeing 80-90% of the performance of raw rados object writes/reads (and in some cases much faster with RBD cache enabled!). > RGW, Apache, fastcgi, and simply the requirements of supporting the S3 protocol itself add a lot of overhead. MD5 calculations by themselves start chewing up a ton of CPU once you try to support high throughput scenarios and there is a non-trivial amount of extra latency added as well. You may be able to improve things with some tweaks, but I wouldn't be surprised if RBD is always going to be faster to an extent. > > [Philipp]We are talking about 9mb/s per rgw, which is less then 1/4 of rbd (rados put: 40mb/s), with the rados bench we get actually: Bandwidth (MB/sec): 171.744. > So I think we are not talking about tweaking, rather a general problem? > > > For folks who want really fast object storage I think directly utilizing rados is probably the way to go, but that requires modifying the app and it's not for everyone. > >> >> (I've heard something about the rgw admin socket to check >> perfcounters, but it seems that this is deprecated? Because when i >> type ceph --admin-daemon ... it says unknown command and I cannot >> find it in the ceph docu. Then i wanted to bench via rest-bench, but >> it says "ERROR: failed to create bucket: XmlParseFailure -failed >> initializing benchmark", so I could not bench the speed.) > > connecting with the admin daemon should still be supported. > Documentation is here: > > http://ceph.com/docs/next/radosgw/troubleshooting/ > > If this doesn't work please let me know! > > [Philipp] How can you activate a rgw admin socket? I think we have to add an entry in the ceph.conf? The admin socket is not the "rgw socket path" I think? > > > Also, I've created a bug for the rest-bench issue: > > http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/5302 > > Personally I've been using swift-bench for most of my recent rgw testing. > > Mark > >> >> Ceph.conf- rgw part: >> >> [client.radosgw.connect2] >> host = hcrgwko2 >> rgw socket path = /tmp/connect2.sock >> log file = /var/log/ceph/connect2.log rgw dns name = FQDN >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> >> Regards >> >> Philipp >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" >> in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo >> info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html