Re: OSD memory leaks?

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On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Sébastien Han wrote:
> Well to avoid un necessary data movement, there is also an
> _experimental_ feature to change on fly the number of PGs in a pool.
>  
> ceph osd pool set <poolname> pg_num <numpgs> --allow-experimental-feature
Don't do that. We've got a set of 3 patches which fix bugs we know about that aren't in bobtail yet, and I'm sure there's more we aren't aware of…
-Greg

Software Engineer #42 @ http://inktank.com | http://ceph.com  

>  
> Cheers!
> --
> Regards,
> Sébastien Han.
>  
>  
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Dave Spano <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
> > Disregard my previous question. I found my answer in the post below. Absolutely brilliant! I thought I was screwed!
> >  
> > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.ceph.devel/8924
> >  
> > Dave Spano
> > Optogenics
> > Systems Administrator
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  
> > From: "Dave Spano" <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>
> > To: "Sébastien Han" <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>
> > Cc: "Sage Weil" <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sage@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Wido den Hollander" <wido@xxxxxxxx (mailto:wido@xxxxxxxx)>, "Gregory Farnum" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Sylvain Munaut" <s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "ceph-devel" <ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Samuel Just" <sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Vladislav Gorbunov" <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:41:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: OSD memory leaks?
> >  
> >  
> > If one were stupid enough to have their pg_num and pgp_num set to 8 on two of their pools, how could you fix that?
> >  
> >  
> > Dave Spano
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  
> > From: "Sébastien Han" <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>
> > To: "Vladislav Gorbunov" <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)>
> > Cc: "Sage Weil" <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sage@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Wido den Hollander" <wido@xxxxxxxx (mailto:wido@xxxxxxxx)>, "Gregory Farnum" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Sylvain Munaut" <s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Dave Spano" <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "ceph-devel" <ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Samuel Just" <sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx)>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:43:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: OSD memory leaks?
> >  
> > > Sorry, i mean pg_num and pgp_num on all pools. Shown by the "ceph osd
> > > dump | grep 'rep size'"
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Well it's still 450 each...
> >  
> > > The default pg_num value 8 is NOT suitable for big cluster.
> >  
> > Thanks I know, I'm not new with Ceph. What's your point here? I
> > already said that pg_num was 450...
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Sébastien Han.
> >  
> >  
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Vladislav Gorbunov <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
> > > Sorry, i mean pg_num and pgp_num on all pools. Shown by the "ceph osd
> > > dump | grep 'rep size'"
> > > The default pg_num value 8 is NOT suitable for big cluster.
> > >  
> > > 2013/3/13 Sébastien Han <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>:
> > > > Replica count has been set to 2.
> > > >  
> > > > Why?
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Sébastien Han.
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Vladislav Gorbunov <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
> > > > > > FYI I'm using 450 pgs for my pools.
> > > > >  
> > > > >  
> > > > > Please, can you show the number of object replicas?
> > > > >  
> > > > > ceph osd dump | grep 'rep size'
> > > > >  
> > > > > Vlad Gorbunov
> > > > >  
> > > > > 2013/3/5 Sébastien Han <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>:
> > > > > > FYI I'm using 450 pgs for my pools.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Sébastien Han.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sage@xxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Mar 2013, Wido den Hollander wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 02/23/2013 01:44 AM, Sage Weil wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2013, S?bastien Han wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > I finally got a core dump.
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > I did it with a kill -SEGV on the OSD process.
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahv6hm0ipnak5rf/core-ceph-osd-11-0-0-20100-1361539008
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > Hope we will get something out of it :-).
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > AHA! We have a theory. The pg log isnt trimmed during scrub (because teh
> > > > > > > > > old scrub code required that), but the new (deep) scrub can take a very
> > > > > > > > > long time, which means the pg log will eat ram in the meantime..
> > > > > > > > > especially under high iops.
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > Does the number of PGs influence the memory leak? So my theory is that when
> > > > > > > > you have a high number of PGs with a low number of objects per PG you don't
> > > > > > > > see the memory leak.
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > I saw the memory leak on a RBD system where a pool had just 8 PGs, but after
> > > > > > > > going to 1024 PGs in a new pool it seemed to be resolved.
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > I've asked somebody else to try your patch since he's still seeing it on his
> > > > > > > > systems. Hopefully that gives us some results.
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > The PGs were active+clean when you saw the leak? There is a problem (that
> > > > > > > we just fixed in master) where pg logs aren't trimmed for degraded PGs.
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > sage
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > Wido
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > Can you try wip-osd-log-trim (which is bobtail + a simple patch) and see
> > > > > > > > > if that seems to work? Note that that patch shouldn't be run in a mixed
> > > > > > > > > argonaut+bobtail cluster, since it isn't properly checking if the scrub is
> > > > > > > > > class or chunky/deep.
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > sage
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > S?bastien Han.
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Gregory Farnum <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:57 AM, S?bastien Han <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Is osd.1 using the heap profiler as well? Keep in mind that active
> > > > > > > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the memory profiler will itself cause memory usage to increase ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > this sounds a bit like that to me since it's staying stable at a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > large
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but finite portion of total memory.
> > > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, the memory consumption was already high before the profiler was
> > > > > > > > > > > > started. So yes with the memory profiler enable an OSD might consume
> > > > > > > > > > > > more memory but this doesn't cause the memory leaks.
> > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > My concern is that maybe you saw a leak but when you restarted with
> > > > > > > > > > > the memory profiling you lost whatever conditions caused it.
> > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? Nothing to say about my scrumbing theory?
> > > > > > > > > > > I like it, but Sam indicates that without some heap dumps which
> > > > > > > > > > > capture the actual leak then scrub is too large to effectively code
> > > > > > > > > > > review for leaks. :(
> > > > > > > > > > > -Greg
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