Questions about journals, performance and disk utilization.

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Hi list,

In a mixed SSD & SATA setup (5 or 8 nodes each holding 8x SATA and 4x SSD) would it make sense to skip having journals on SSD or is the advantage of doing so just too great? We're looking into having 2 pools, sata and ssd and will be creating guests belonging into either of these groups based on if they require high/heavy io.

Also, we currently lean on going with a very simple setup using a serverboard with 8x onboard raid slots (LSI 2308) and 6x onboard sata slots and just attach all disks to both onboard controller and onboard slots (for cost and simplicity) - and just pass them along as JBOD.

Any suggestions/input about:
- Would it make sense to drop onboard controller and aim for a better controller (cache/battery backed 12-16 port one)
- Attach another cheapo JBOD card like SAS2008/LSI 2308 etc.
- or just go with this setup (to keep it simpler and cheaper)

Journals:
- Would it make sense to kill say 1 ssd and 1 sata and attach 2 fast SSD for journals? Or would that be 'redundant' in our case since we already have a pool with sata and ssd (we do not expect heavy io in the sata pool)

Rbd striping:
- Performance - afaik rbd is striped over objects; if one would create say a 20GB rbd image would this mostly be striped over very few objects/pg (say ~3 nodes as would be min. in our setup) or would one expect it to be striped over pretty much the entirety of the nodes (5 or 8 in our case) in smaller objects (or even across all OSD?)

Disks:
- Any advice for SATA disks? I know a vendor like Seagate have their 'normal' enterprise disks (ES.3-models) and are also selling their cloud-based disks (CS models). Any suggestions/experience what to look at/aim at? Or what are people using in general?

Disk utilization:
- I've noticed in our testsetup that we have several pg's taking up >300GB data each - is this normal? This results in some odd situations where disk usage can vary by up to 15-20% (2TB disks). If we adjust the weight it eventually means one of these pg will go to another disk and it has to copy 300GB data. We're using 0.56.1.

Some output from 'ceph pg dump':
pg_stat objects mip degr unf bytes log disklog state state_stamp v reported up acting last_scrub scrub_stamp last_deep_scrub deep_scrub_stamp 4.5 90772 0 0 0 379301388412 150969 150969 active+clean 2013-01-22 00:07:13.384272 2827'412414 2795'3317565 [1,2] [1,2] 2827'397587 2013-01-22 00:07:13.384225 2744'299767 2013-01-17 05:40:40.737279

Results in disk usage like:
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdd1 1.9T 1.4T 446G 77% /srv/ceph/osd5 /dev/sdb1 1.4T 1.1T 331G 77% /srv/ceph/osd0 /dev/sda1 1.9T 1.4T 442G 77% /srv/ceph/osd1 /dev/sdc1 1.9T 1.8T 84G 96% /srv/ceph/osd2

If we reweight sdc down (even with 0.00X % at a time) one of those big pg's will eventually move to any one of the above disks and the image will look exactly the same with the exception another disk will have 96% usage instead (I've bumped cluster full % to 98% in this setup).

Apologies up front if questions like these are not supposed to go to this mailling-list.

Any advice/ideas/suggestions are very welcome!

Cheers,
Martin Nielsen
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