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>> does 'ceph mds dump' list pool 3 in teh data_pools line?

Yes. It lists the desired poolids I wanted to put data in.


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From: hemant surale <hemant.surale@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: OSD daemon changes port no
To: Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx>


I used a little different version of "cephfs" as "cephfs
/home/hemant/a set_layout --pool 3 -c 1 -u  4194304 -s  4194304"
 and "cephfs /home/hemant/b set_layout --pool 5 -c 1 -u  4194304 -s  4194304".


Now cmd didnt showed any error but When I put data to dir "a" & "b"
ideally it should go to different pool but its not working as of now.
Whatever I am doing is it possible (to use 2 dir pointing to 2
different pools for data placement) ?



-
Hemant Surale.

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, hemant surale wrote:
>> I did "mkdir a " "chmod 777 a" . So dir "a" is /home/hemant/a" .
>> then I used "mount.ceph 10.72.148.245:/ /ho
>>
>> root@hemantsec-virtual-machine:/home/hemant# cephfs /home/hemant/a
>> set_layout --pool 3
>> Error setting layout: Invalid argument
>
> does 'ceph mds dump' list pool 3 in teh data_pools line?
>
> sage
>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, hemant surale wrote:
>> >> While I was using "cephfs" following error is observed -
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> root@hemantsec-virtual-machine:~# cephfs /mnt/ceph/a --pool 3
>> >> invalid command
>> >
>> > Try
>> >
>> >  cephfs /mnt/ceph/a set_layout --pool 3
>> >
>> > (set_layout is the command)
>> >
>> > sage
>> >
>> >> usage: cephfs path command [options]*
>> >> Commands:
>> >>    show_layout    -- view the layout information on a file or dir
>> >>    set_layout     -- set the layout on an empty file,
>> >>                      or the default layout on a directory
>> >>    show_location  -- view the location information on a file
>> >> Options:
>> >>    Useful for setting layouts:
>> >>    --stripe_unit, -u:  set the size of each stripe
>> >>    --stripe_count, -c: set the number of objects to stripe across
>> >>    --object_size, -s:  set the size of the objects to stripe across
>> >>    --pool, -p:         set the pool to use
>> >>
>> >>    Useful for getting location data:
>> >>    --offset, -l:       the offset to retrieve location data for
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> It may be silly question but unable to figure it out.
>> >>
>> >> :(
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, hemant surale wrote:
>> >> >> > Oh I see.  Generally speaking, the only way to guarantee separation is to
>> >> >> > put them in different pools and distribute the pools across different sets
>> >> >> > of OSDs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> yeah that was correct approach but i found problem doing so from
>> >> >> abstract level i.e. when I put file inside mounted dir
>> >> >> "/home/hemant/cephfs " ( mounted using "mount.ceph" cmd ) . At that
>> >> >> time anyways ceph is going to use default pool data to store files (
>> >> >> here files were striped into different objects and then sent to
>> >> >> appropriate osd ) .
>> >> >>    So how to tell ceph to use different pools in this case ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Goal : separate read and write operations , where read will be done
>> >> >> from one group of OSD and write is done to other group of OSD.
>> >> >
>> >> > First create the other pool,
>> >> >
>> >> >  ceph osd pool create <name>
>> >> >
>> >> > and then adjust the CRUSH rule to distributed to a different set of OSDs
>> >> > for that pool.
>> >> >
>> >> > To allow cephfs use it,
>> >> >
>> >> >  ceph mds add_data_pool <poolid>
>> >> >
>> >> > and then:
>> >> >
>> >> >  cephfs /mnt/ceph/foo --pool <poolid>
>> >> >
>> >> > will set the policy on the directory such that new files beneath that
>> >> > point will be stored in a different pool.
>> >> >
>> >> > Hope that helps!
>> >> > sage
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -
>> >> >> Hemant Surale.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> > On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, hemant surale wrote:
>> >> >> >> Its a little confusing question I believe .
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Actually there are two files X & Y.  When I am reading X from its
>> >> >> >> primary .I want to make sure simultaneous writing of Y should go to
>> >> >> >> any other OSD except primary OSD for X (from where my current read is
>> >> >> >> getting served ) .
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Oh I see.  Generally speaking, the only way to guarantee separation is to
>> >> >> > put them in different pools and distribute the pools across different sets
>> >> >> > of OSDs.  Otherwise, it's all (pseudo)random and you never know.  Usually,
>> >> >> > they will be different, particularly as the cluster size increases, but
>> >> >> > sometimes they will be the same.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > sage
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> -
>> >> >> >> Hemant Sural.e
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, hemant surale wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>    and one more thing how can it be possible to read from one osd and
>> >> >> >> >> >> then simultaneous write to direct on other osd with less/no traffic?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > I'm not sure I understand the question...
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Scenario :
>> >> >> >> >>        I have written file X.txt on some osd which is primary for filr
>> >> >> >> >> X.txt ( direct write operation using rados cmd) .
>> >> >> >> >>        Now while read on file X.txt is in progress, Can I make sure
>> >> >> >> >> the simultaneous write request must be directed to other osd using
>> >> >> >> >> crushmaps/other way?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Nope.  The object location is based on the name.  Reads and writes go to
>> >> >> >> > the same location so that a single OSD can serialize request.  That means,
>> >> >> >> > for example, that a read that follows a write returns the just-written
>> >> >> >> > data.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > sage
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Goal of task :
>> >> >> >> >>        Trying to avoid read - write clashes as much as possible to
>> >> >> >> >> achieve faster operations (I/O) . Although CRUSH selects osd for data
>> >> >> >> >> placement based on pseudo random function.  is it possible ?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> -
>> >> >> >> >> Hemant Surale.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, hemant surale wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Community,
>> >> >> >> >> >>    I have question about port number used by ceph-osd daemon . I
>> >> >> >> >> >> observed traffic (inter -osd communication while data ingest happened)
>> >> >> >> >> >> on port 6802 and then after some time when I ingested second file
>> >> >> >> >> >> after some delay port no 6804 was used . Is there any specific reason
>> >> >> >> >> >> to change port no here?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > The ports are dynamic.  Daemons bind to a random (6800-6900) port on
>> >> >> >> >> > startup and communicate on that.  They discover each other via the
>> >> >> >> >> > addresses published in the osdmap when the daemon starts.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>    and one more thing how can it be possible to read from one osd and
>> >> >> >> >> >> then simultaneous write to direct on other osd with less/no traffic?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > I'm not sure I understand the question...
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > sage
>> >> >> >> >> --
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