Re: Pre-creating pools for radosgw

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On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, John Axel Eriksson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since we setup a test cluster, only for use with radosgw, we've
> noticed that pg_num is set to 8 for all the pools rgw uses. Our
> test-cluster only has two OSDs but when we go live we plan on having a
> few more of them. We anticipate going to maybe 10 OSDs in 6 months
> time.
> There's been talk on this list about this before and there have been
> some solutions... I'd like to properly set it up before we go live
> though and I've come to understand that it's not something you easily
> change after data has been stored to the cluster (through rgw). I've
> checked the existing pools and as I said, the rgw ones are all set to
> 8 pgs. I assume ALL pools starting with "." are created by rgw even
> though not all of them are called .rgw.<something> (such as .log,
> .intent-log, .users.email etc). Anyway, some of them could probably
> stay at 8 pgs I guess. I did a pretty quick calculation and came up
> with something like this:
> 
> .rgw.buckets = 1024
> .log = 84
> .rgw: 52
> .rgw.control: 8 # eg. default value
> .users.uid: 32
> .users.email: 32
> .users: 8 # eg. default value
> .usage: 8 # eg. default value
> .intent-log: 32
> 
> this totals to 1280. Afaik a power of two is slightly more performant.
> The other pools - data, metadata and rbd won't be used by us - they're
> all set to 256 by default. Adding that we end up with 2048 pools.
> Would this be a reasonable value?

For 10 OSDs, yes.

> Also can we perhaps delete the data, metadata and rbd pools if we're 
> only using rgw?

Yes.

> We plan on having 2 copies (the default I think) of everything in the
> cluster but may go to 3 - not sure.
> 
> How would I pre-create the pools by the way? I assume you would go
> about it like this:
> 
> rados mkpool .rgw.buckets
> ceph osd pool set .rgw.buckets pg_num 1024

ceph osd pool create .rgw.buckets 1024

> 
> etc
> 
> All of that BEFORE ever starting/using RadosGW. I wouldn't have to
> create the pools with default values I guess. Am I correct in my
> assumptions?
> 
> Also what do these mean (from docs):
> 
> pg_num: See above.
> pgp_num: See above.
> lpg_num: The number of local PGs.
> lpgp_num: The number used for placing the local PGs.

l* values are deprecated.

pgp_num lets you have a larger number of PGs but place/distribute them as 
if there were a smaller number.  It is part of the legacy split process, 
but may not be needed for the new implementation.  You can ignore them 
all; just worry about pg_num (pgp_num will match that).

> 
> Should I set any of these?
> 
> 
> I assume changing the number of replicas would be done like this:
> 
> ceph osd pool set .rgw.buckets size 3 # for 3 replicas
> 
> Above can be done after data has been stored through rgw, right?

Right.

> I also assume that the actual data stored via radosgw is stored in
> .rgw.buckets. I know you're planning on adding pg-splitting but I'd
> like to do this well before that is released.
> 
> So, could you please just confirm or correct what I assume?

Looks like you're on the right track.

sage

> 
> Thanks alot!
> 
> John
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