Re: Where to run ceph for openstack

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On 08/10/2012 03:33 AM, Curtis C. wrote:
Hi All,

My workplace is considering deploying Ceph for OpenStack block storage
to try to provide volume and vm migration.


Disclaimer: I have never worked with OpenStack, only with CloudStack.

Immediately I decided, perhaps wrongly, that this meant a dedicated
Ceph cluster of physical servers. But a colleague suggested that
perhaps it would be better to run Ceph on the compute nodes instead of
a distinct, separate cluster.


I think it's common to run Ceph on dedicated hardware, but it is not mandatory.

There is however a situation where running Kernel-RBD or the Ceph filesystem on an OSD leads into a lock situation (still valid?), but with Qemu RBD this shouldn't be a problem.

Is one of these a more appropriate solution (in a perfect world)? Or
is this a half-dozen one way, six the other type situation?

I can definitely understand trying to make compute and storage generic
and plentiful by keeping them on the same node. But I also feel like
it's ok to split things out sometimes too.


You should be able to run the OSD daemons on compute nodes, but you will need a cluster of monitors (3 recommended), I'd not run those on the compute nodes.

Be aware however that OSDs can eat a lot of memory and CPU. They sometimes eat so much memory that they can press a machine out of memory. Won't be nice if it took a couple of your instances with it.

So, technically you can run the OSDs on Compute nodes, but in terms of stability I wouldn't recommend it.

Wido

Any thoughts, suggestions, or reference architecture pointers?

Thanks for any help,
Curtis.
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