Re: Date drift and ntpd

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Jason Pyeron wrote:
>  
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: centos-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:centos-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Warren Young
>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 17:41
>> To: CentOS mailing list
>> Subject: Re:  Date drift and ntpd
>>
>> On 8/12/2010 5:07 AM, Jason Pyeron wrote:
>>> [root@devserver21 ~]# cat /etc/ntp.conf | grep -v ^# | grep -v ^$ 
>>> restrict default nomodify notrap noquery restrict 127.0.0.1 server 
>>> 192.168.1.67 server 192.168.1.66 server 192.168.1.65
>> Some HOWTOs tell you that more time servers is better, on a 
>> standard knee-jerk redundancy theory, but they're ignoring two things.
>>
>> First, you already have a fallback: the system's built-in 
>> clock.  It's perfectly fine to run on that while you ride out 
>> your time server's downtime.
>>
>> Second, ntpd, internally, is built on a phase-locked loop, 
>> which is supposed to stabilize its time corrections in the 
>> face of jitter and other bad things out in the real world.  
>> Like anything based on a negative feedback loop, however, it 
>> can be destablized with certain inputs.  Giving ntpd two or 
>> more servers is a pretty good way to destabilize its PLL in 
>> the real, non-ideal world we find on the modern Internet.
>>
>> To anyone considering flaming me, please read this first:
>>
>> 	http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1773943
>>
>> At minimum, read the section "One server is enough".  The bit 
>> on PLLs about halfway down is also directly relevant.
> 
> Okay, I only have one timeserver, but the ntp clients cowardly refuse to use
> less than 3. Back to the man page...

One server should be fine - you must have something else wrong, like your 
authoritative server not being a low stratum number - or not convinced itself 
that its time is correct.

-- 
    Les Mikesell
    lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx
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