On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM, drew einhorn <drew.einhorn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Ralph Angenendt
> <ralph.angenendt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 09:01 -0600, drew einhorn wrote:
>>> > This is related to the problem at hand how?
>>> >
>>>
>>> The OP has a problem resulting from mixing standard and 3rd party
>>> repos, and has noticed some obvious issues.
>>
>> No, he doesn't. His yum hangs.
>>
>
> Obviously yum hangs.
>
> It hangs because he is improperly mixing 3rd party repos
> with the standard configuration.
Really. How were you able to determine conclusively that this was due
to 3rd party repository interference, and not something else, like
corrupted metadata, (which was recently a problem for the centos repos
themselves) or other related issues? Given the paste the OP showed at
the outset, there's no way to divine this short of magic, or
additional debugging.
> Someone suggested just removing the 3rd repos,
> and continuing on.
>
> I don't know how long this has been going on:
>
> 1) Somewhere along the line an incompatible
> package from a 3rd party repo could have been
> installed as a result of his yum configuration.
Just as likely, some yum metadata corruption could have occured,
network issues, or a stale hold on the rpm database.
> Just returning to a standard repo config.
> Will not uniinstall any incompatible packages.
You're so incredibly quick to assume it's a 3rd party package causing
the issues, when multiple people have already pointed out this flawed
logic. You should really stop being overly judgmental and irrational.
> It is a difficult problem to diagnose.
No it's not. You're simply spreading more FUD here.
> We do not have good tools for this.
You might not. "We" do.
Yum is quite good at handling this itself with increasing debug values
to obtain more output and see exactly what's going on.
> 2) Presumably the OP had a valid reason,
> for mixining standard and 3rd party repos.
I'd assume that like other centos users, they want more things than
ship in the default repositories. Given the "mystery repos" you
alluded to not knowing about earlier, I'd say virtualmin and
postgresql 8.3 were on his list of wanted packages.
>
> yum-priorities is a good, but not perfect tool
> for mixing repos. Rather than removing
> all 3rd party repos the OP might want to
> configure yum-priorities
Which is good advice for later. It doesn't do a single thing to solve
the problem at hand. This is what Ralph has been telling you the whole
time. You're focusing far too much energy and verbosity on something
that has little impact on the current issue.
Stop being judgmental. Stop issuing rash and irresponsible advice.
Start focusing on the actual problem the OP asked about please.
--
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
George Orwell
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