On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 05:48 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> Bob Taylor wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:54 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >>> Bob Taylor wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >>> Exactly the *wrong* response. I wonder if responses similar to this
> >>> loses potential users or loses existing customers. Personally, it
> >>> disgusts me.
> >> It is not *wrong* ... any more than your response is *wrong*.
> >>
> >> Your opinion is for you and my opinion is for me.
> >>
> >> And the GREAT thing about open source is, there is always another
> >> project if you don't like the current one.
> >
> > Let me add: As a *developer* you are saying the wrong things.
> >
> >> My point is, the CentOS team has put in an unbelievable amount of time
> >> and effort to build this distribution. We will continue to do so. If
> >> you like it use it. If you don't like it, don't use it.
> >
> > And my point is: Just *who* are you doing this "unbelievable amount of
> > time and effort.." *for*?
>
> Not for you, for people who appreciate it. I have never been paid a
> dime for any work to the CentOS project.
Have I said I don't appreciate it? It so happens I do. More than I can
say. Have I indicated you have been paid?
> >> If someone has a major problem with the distro, then they should find
> >> one that they don't have a major problem with. I don't want hard
> >> feelings or anyone to be upset, but if we are not meeting your
> >> expectations then you might be able to find another that does. I do not
> >> think you will ... but trying is certainly better than being upset.
> >
> > It's your *attitude*, Johnny. I'm attempting to help you with your
> > people skills. OK? It is not helpful nor desirable to talk to people in
> > such an apparently arrogant manner. If you did so with clients, you most
> > certainly wouldn't have any in short order and possibly be looking for
> > another job.
> >
> > Enough said.
> >
> Let me see.
>
> First, I give you a free product that people pay thousands of dollars
> for. I do so voluntarily.
>
> Second, I am supposed to also kiss your ass?
Is it necessary to insult me? I have said *nothing* to you to warrant
this.
> What kind of attitude should I have when you come into my organization,
> take a free product, tell me that everyone working on the project sucks,
> tell me that they need to work harder and get you the free product
> faster, tell me that you need to have a say in how the organization works?
I said *nothing* of the sort. BTW, "my organization"???
Sheesh!
--
Bob Taylor
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