At Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:44:46 -0500 CentOS mailing list <centos@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Robert Heller wrote:
> > At Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:59:02 -0600 CentOS mailing list <centos@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> R P Herrold wrote:
> >>
> >>> Here is the fallout: The poor end user 'knows' it was CentOS,
> >>> because she was told by the respinner that it is 'CentOS with
> >>> just one package replaced'. Who gets the black eye here?
> >>> Who bears the support load of sorting out what happened when
> >>> the poor hurt user shows up in what she thinks is the correct
> >>> support venue, barely able to describe her VOIP turnkey box's
> >>> operation?
> >>>
> >>> The answer is, of course, the main mother-ship CentOS project
> >>> folks.
> >>>
> >>> And it is not right that people do this to us, but it is also
> >>> hard to stop. Probably the only real solution is to enforce
> >>> the CentOS trademark on the art and brand packages, and
> >>> prohibit respins containing such (just as the upstream does).
> >>>
> >>> Sad, but true.
> >>>
> >>> There is a reason the core CentOS group are skittish about
> >>> respins. We'll have to discuss this seriously.
> >>>
> >> I can see your point about the brand value you have embedded into the
> >> packages, but it also seems wrong to make everyone who wants to improve
> >> it or adapt to some additional purpose repeat all the rebranding work
> >> from scratch.
> >>
> >
> > Or deal with a 'show stopping bug', like the known problem with
> > mkinitrd. I have no interest in rebranding anything or even
> > redistributing my 'replacement' CD (I'll probably toss the replacement
> > CD once I get the install done). I just want to install CentOS on a
> > system with pre-existing software RAID disks -- I am migrating a server
> > from Ubuntu to CentOS 5 and I don't want to lose prexisting data, so
> > simply wiping the disks and installing on bare partitions is not an
> > option (and even then I'd want to use LVM for some things, and even
> > without RAID, LVM will also send mkinitrd off into never, never land --
> > basically anything the fires up /dev/mapper/... will do it: RAID, LVM,
> > cryptfs, all seem to do this).
> >
> >
> >> How hard would it be to generate an 'unbranded' drop in replacement
> >> package for everything specifically Centos - or a framework so others
> >> could share the work? That way everyone who needed to replace a driver
> >> wouldn't have to repeat all this work unless they wanted to create their
> >> own unique brand identity.
> >>
> >> If you think respins containing Centos branding are wrong, make it easy
> >> to to the right thing.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> tried nodmraid on the kernel boot line?
The problem is that I need to actually install on the raid arrays, so
this isn't an option either.
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